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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: Sonia Gardener on Wednesday 07 October 20 13:10 BST (UK)
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I am looking for some help please in finding Italian ancestors.
I have tracked back to Valentine Urbani born Italy abt. 1795 occupation Tailor. At some stage before 1852 he arrived in Westminster with all his family. His son Pietro was born 1829 Parmanova and daughter was born 1825 Palma. I have them all in the census from 1861.
What I have not been able to find is an immigration record which might give me added information of where they came from and if Valentine’s wife was with them as she does not appear on the census.
I have tried Familysearch with no luck for picking up the family in Italy or emigration to England.
Any guidance would be much appreciated
Many thanks
Sonia
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It may be quicker to name his wife and children to save us going on a wild goose chase ..
was his wife / Pietros mum named Lucia Soldera ??
have a look through these and let us know if any ring a bell - Urbani born in Italy 1750-1850
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&sexe=&nom=urbani&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Italy&country__0__=ITA®ion__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=®ion__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=®ion__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=®ion__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=®ion__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=1750&to=1800&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
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My apologies for giving so little information and I hope the following will help.
Valentine Urbani born 1795 Italy died 1794 Westminster
His 2 children were Lucia Urbani born 1825 Palma. She married ? Fantini and her 3 children Giacomina 1851, PasQuale Valentine 1854 & Antonio Angelo 1856 were born in Palmanova Italy She was a widow in 1871
Pietro Valentine Urbani born 1829 Palmanova 1881 census. He is a tailor living Golden Sq Westminster with wife Elizabeth Vaughan who he married 1852 Strand RD London. His children were all born in London between 1855 & 1871. Josephine, Giovani Valentine AKA John Valentine, Valentine Luigi, Giuliano Fracesco, Emilia Maria and Carolina Theresa.
Also living with them is his father and Lucia and her children.
I have noticed on Ancestry under records for Pietro Urbani that there is an aliens arrival record but my subscription does not let me view it.
I have tried familysearch and the National archives for further information and also done a google search for the family but so far no luck. I had not yet attempted researching in Italy so thank you so much for your link. There are possibles there in the Buja Udine area and I have registered now with geneanet to explore further.
Thank you again for pointing me in the right direction.
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aliens arrival record
Port of London
17 Feb 1851
Name and Country:
Francois Philipp
Pietro Urbani
Profession:
Tailors
Native of:
France
Italy
from what port arrived:
Havre
Venezuela
Remarks:
left 4 months
Dave
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thank you Dave for your reply - the information gives me further clues to follow
take care Sonia
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Hi Sonia,
I know you posted this a while back but I just found it, not sure if you have moved on in your search but my partner is a Fantini and the Urbani’s you mention are in his family tree via Valentino’s daughter
He tracked her and her husband to Palmanova in Udine, northern Italy and managed to get her husbands birth certificate, but never went any further back than that within Italy.
Charlotte