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Title: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: daljul on Thursday 08 October 20 16:35 BST (UK)
Try as I might I can't find this family.

I am looking for Richard Bowker with wife Elizabeth (nee Egerton) They married in 1901 and had children Martha Anne 1903, James 1904, Herbert 1905, Lena 1908 and Frank Percy 1914 in Fleetwood Lancashire.

Any help would be much appreciated
Dinkey
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 08 October 20 16:43 BST (UK)
BOWKER, LENA       mmn EGERTON 
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in NORTHWICH 
Volume 08A  Page 278

BOWKER, GLADYS       mmn EGERTON 
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in NORTHWICH  Volume 08A  Page 255

Births Sep 1914   
Bowker    Frank P    mmn Egerton    Fylde    8e   1252   
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 08 October 20 16:47 BST (UK)
Is this another child
BOWKER, ETHEL  MAY     mmn EGERTON 
GRO Reference: 1912  June Quarter in STAFFORD  Volume 06B  Page 27
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 08 October 20 16:59 BST (UK)
Sorry but Rootschat does not allow 1911 lookups

In 1901 Richard Bowker is visiting the Egerton family.  Shown as aged 40 and born Winsford (1860)

Elizabeth Egerton was 19 also b Winsford (1882)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS6D-L4W
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 08 October 20 17:27 BST (UK)
Seemingly with only 1 Bowker/Egerton recorded marriage between 1880-1920 is this possibly another child.

Births Jun 1917   
Bowker    Nellie    Egerton    Bridgwater    5c   433

John
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 08 October 20 17:29 BST (UK)
They certainly moved around John   ;D
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 08 October 20 17:36 BST (UK)
I think Both Elizabeth & Richard were younger than shown in 1901 - see 1939 register entry

Births June qtr 1865 - Richard Bowker - Northwich 8a 253 - mmn was Woodward

There is also a birth in same qtr in Shrewsbury - mmn Vaughan

George Bowker & Martha Woodward married 1862 Northwich & 1871 shows Richard b Over Cheshire

1881 Martha has remarried to Joseph Vickers - Richard again shown as b Over Cheshire
 
Still no luck finding them in 1911  ???


Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 08 October 20 20:09 BST (UK)
Still no luck finding them in 1911  ???

Seem pretty elusive  ???

Lena Bowker
Baptism 12 Jul 1908 Moulton St Stephen the Martyr, Cheshire
Residence St. Stephen the Martyr, Moulton, Cheshire
Father:   Richard Bowker Mother:   Elizabeth
Cheshire, England, Parish Registers, 1538-1909

no image to check address
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 08 October 20 21:21 BST (UK)
doesn't help with 1911

Name:   Frank Percy Bowker
Death Age:   70
Birth Date:   15 Aug 1914
Registration Date:   Jun 1985
Registration District:   Blackpool and Fylde
Inferred County:   Lancashire
Volume:   40
Page:   623

John
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 08 October 20 21:37 BST (UK)
Ethel May married 1933 John Tobin. 1939 gives her birthdate.

John
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: daljul on Friday 09 October 20 07:21 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your help. Still hoping I can find the family in the 1911 census. They are hiding somewhere!!!

Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 09 October 20 08:35 BST (UK)
Possibly Northwich or Stafford registration district areas going by the birth registrations I found

BOWKER, GLADYS       mmn EGERTON 
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in NORTHWICH  Volume 08A  Page 255

Is this another child
BOWKER, ETHEL  MAY     mmn EGERTON 
GRO Reference: 1912  June Quarter in STAFFORD  Volume 06B  Page 27
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 09 October 20 08:37 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your help. Still hoping I can find the family in the 1911 census. They are hiding somewhere!!!
BOWKER, GLADYS       mmn EGERTON 
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in NORTHWICH  Volume 08A  Page 255

A baptism Gladys for would give you an address or her birth certificate that might help - I have to say I’ve tried all manner of combinations on family search but nothing  ???

Edit to add or a baptism for Ethel (see Rosie post)
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 10 October 20 15:45 BST (UK)
Hi daljul, your opening request was for finding the family in 1911, which on the face of things has proved very elusive. Are you wanting ANY details of their children post this date.

John
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: daljul on Saturday 10 October 20 16:36 BST (UK)
Thanks but I have that information. I am just trying to fill in the details of the family through the census years. I am puzzled as to where they were for the 1911. I can only think that the family was mis transcribed !!!
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 10 October 20 16:46 BST (UK)
As suggested you may need the birth certificates or baptisms of the two girls born either side of the 1911 to locate the address they were living at.  You originally suggested Fleetwood but they do not appear to have moved there until after the birth of Ethel in 1912 Stafford registration district
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 10 October 20 18:30 BST (UK)
rosie, it appears that is the only solution for this , and even that could be a dead end. The whole family ie Richard & Elizabeth, their children Herbert,Lena, Gladys, Ethel May and Frank Percy all married in th Fylde area. Marha & James died pre 1911 so will not be with them in 1911. They were living at 14 Charles St, Over until at least 10.4.1903 when Martha was buried.

Moving on to other things but hope your searching ends successfully

John
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: Long Tom on Wednesday 14 October 20 07:48 BST (UK)
Hi Dinkey.     A few late comments!
I too tried to find them in 1911, but like everybody had no success.      I noted the observations that the family certainly moved around, which as a retired Builder I would expect that of Richard as a Bricklayers Labourer, who has to follow the work.    He cannot jump in a car and go 5,10 miles or so every day, and as the Labourer he is expected to set the job up for the Bricklayers at day start, scaffolding, bricks, mortar etc in place.
The wide range of Birth locations obviously suggests the family are with him, but any short duration jobs make it hard to get  settled accommodation, hence adding to the difficulty of being on the 1911 Census.
They will be there but could be anywhere I am afraid.
    Cheers.
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: daljul on Wednesday 14 October 20 08:50 BST (UK)
Thanks Long Tom
 I am rather coming to that conclusion myself and that is why I am struggling to find them. I will put this family on the back burn er for now.

Also thanks to everyone who has tried to help
Title: Re: Bowker family Lookup in 1911 census
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 14 October 20 11:48 BST (UK)
They will be there but could be anywhere I am afraid.

There will always be those that got missed, the 1911 is no different to the earlier census.  Much like electoral registration some people don't complete forms even if someone is knocking on their door to pick them up.