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Title: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Daffern2020 on Thursday 08 October 20 21:05 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,

I need help with the word under "Elizabeth". Could it be two words? Martha's second name? No other entry on the document had a word between his wife and was.

It reads:

Elizabeth daughter of John Johnson & Martha his wife ------- was born April 23 & baptised the 30th.
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 08 October 20 21:08 BST (UK)
I think it is travellers.
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: goldie61 on Thursday 08 October 20 21:27 BST (UK)
I agree Christine.
'travellers'
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Daffern2020 on Thursday 08 October 20 21:37 BST (UK)
I think it is travellers.

Do you have any idea what the context is?

Martha's second name? Although it's not capitalised. Seems odd to have 'travellers' before the baptism date.
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: johnhood on Thursday 08 October 20 21:40 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: goldie61 on Thursday 08 October 20 21:45 BST (UK)
Very possibly it just meant that they were 'travellers' and the scribe couldn't put down the name of a place they were from.
Can't tell from the clip you posted, but do entries on his page usually give the place of residence or occupation of the parents of the child baptised?
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Pheno on Thursday 08 October 20 21:45 BST (UK)

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Seems odd to have 'travellers' before the baptism date.
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Its telling you that John and Martha were travellers i.e. that is their occupation.

It might have said 'cordwainer' for example which would have come in exactly the same place in the narrative.

Pheno
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Daffern2020 on Thursday 08 October 20 21:52 BST (UK)
Very possibly it just meant that they were 'travellers' and the scribe couldn't put down the name of a place they were from.
Can't tell from the clip you posted, but do entries on his page usually give the place of residence or occupation of the parents of the child baptised?

This is the rest of them. None of them seem to have anything.
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Pheno on Thursday 08 October 20 21:57 BST (UK)
I think they are virtually saying that are not from around here!  It is something I have seen on my traveller family.

Pheno
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Daffern2020 on Thursday 08 October 20 22:03 BST (UK)
I think they are virtually saying that are not from around here!  It is something I have seen on my traveller family.

Pheno

Thank you. That's very interesting.
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: waynenort on Thursday 08 October 20 22:36 BST (UK)
Elizabeth daughter of John Johnson & Martha his wife
... was born April 24 & baptised this 30th

Enlarged the words under Elizabeth
Title: Re: Need help with a word that comes after 'his wife'
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 08 October 20 22:40 BST (UK)
It might be to put on record that the family had no right of settlement in the parish and if the parents were unable to earn a living they wouldn't be eligible to receive parish relief.