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Title: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Monday 12 October 20 20:45 BST (UK)
Iím looking for information on my great, great, great grandfather Joseph Gaunt, born in Staffordshire, married Susannah Long in Stretton on Fosse Warwickshire. Joseph was blind & he & Susannah & his 5 children went to Wawanosh, Huron County Canada. Iíd like to be able to prove who Josephís parents were.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: bevj on Monday 12 October 20 22:04 BST (UK)
Hello
Where did you find the information about his date and place of birth, please?
Bev
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Monday 12 October 20 22:11 BST (UK)
I saw the information in several places eg. Ancestry & Family Search, Geni.com. I know the dates are right because I also have details of his journey to Canada in 1850 with his wife & 5 sons. Joseph was blind & his job in England was a log tapper.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: johnhood on Monday 12 October 20 22:46 BST (UK)
The fact that he married in Warwickshire could the below possibly be his birth??

First name(s)   Joseph
Last name   Gaunt
Gender   Male
Birth year   -
Birth place   -
Baptism year   1791
Baptism date   01 Oct 1791
Residence   Birmingham, Warwick, England
Place   Birmingham
County   Warwickshire
Country   England
Father's first name(s)   Stephen
Father's last name   Gaunt
Mother's first name(s)   Dorcas

John
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 October 20 09:52 BST (UK)
1841  Stretton on Fosse, Warwickshire
Ann   Long      65   
Joseph   Gaunt   40   Occupation Farmer
Susannah   Gaunt   35   
Edwin   Gaunt   13   
John   Gaunt      12   
George   Gaunt   9   
James   Gaunt   1   

All born in County except Joseph
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 10:11 BST (UK)
Thank you for that. Yes, that is my Joseph but it is his parents who Iím uncertain about.
There is quite an interesting story about Joseph & Susannah. In 1850 they sailed from Liverpool to Canada & walked over 400Kms to a plot of land given to settlers. It was covered with trees which they cleared & then farmed. When they did the walk, the youngest boy was just 7 & they carried all their belongings with them.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 13 October 20 11:58 BST (UK)
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Baptism year   1791
Baptism date   01 Oct 1791
Died Dec. same year.
I can see 3 in Staffs.
1793-Marchington-parents: James & Hannah.
1795-Rocester-parents: Thomas & Anne.
1797-Tatenhill-parents: Joseph & Sarah.
How do you know he was born in Staffs?
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 October 20 13:48 BST (UK)
I saw the information in several places eg. Ancestry & Family Search, Geni.com.

Were they just peoples trees or official documents  :-\
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:01 BST (UK)
I have an account of their journey to Canada in 1850 which was documented by someone who descends from the family in Canada & all the names match with the 1841 census in Stretton on Fosse, Warwickshire.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:06 BST (UK)
But no actual evidence of Joseph's place of birth  :-\
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:41 BST (UK)
Nothing official, no, but all the dates match up with him & his family. I have him down as being born in Marchington, Staffs in 1792 son of Hannah Wright & James Gaunt or on Ancestry born to Mary Littleton & John Gaunt. I havenít a clue which one is right.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:53 BST (UK)
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I can see 3 in Staffs.
1793-Marchington-parents: James & Hannah.
1795-Rocester-parents: Thomas & Anne.
1797-Tatenhill-parents: Joseph & Sarah.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:57 BST (UK)
I think he is the top one, parents Hannah & James. The other parents i have for him from various sources are John Gaunt & Mary Littleton.  I just cannot ascertain which are the right parents & I find that very frustrating.

 
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:59 BST (UK)
What was the name of Susanna's father
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:03 BST (UK)
Thomas Long, mother Ann Long.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:13 BST (UK)
Thank you, clearly not following naming patterns for their children then. 
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:28 BST (UK)
Seems not.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:36 BST (UK)
In 1841 he gives his age as 40 so a BY of 1796-1801.
Why do you say he was born in 1792?
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:39 BST (UK)
I have a written record which says that he died in 1864 aged 72.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:54 BST (UK)
The problem with ages at death is that it's only as good as the person's knowledge
of the deceased.
I wouldn't take as read that he was 72.
Along with the census where he says he was between 40-44 (ages were rounded down in 1841)
really means he could have been born any time in the 1790's which doesn't help at all.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:58 BST (UK)
Yes, I understand
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 13 October 20 16:09 BST (UK)
The NBI has just 5 Gaunt's in Marchington.
1797/Elizabeth.
1797/Hannah.
1800/John.
1803/Elizabeth.
1830/James age 68.
No ages for the others.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 October 20 16:25 BST (UK)
What would bother me is that the marriage was at Stretton on Fosse which is very close to the boundary of Gloucestershire and near to Oxfordshire and Worcestershire so why pick Staffordshire as his place of birth unless there is good evidence to support it.

I know that people did travel a lot, his journey to Canada proves that but I would be wanting more evidence, we have to remember that not all records are online and not all children were baptised.
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 13 October 20 16:41 BST (UK)
Thomas Long, mother Ann Long.

Joseph and Susannah had son Thomas

Baptism 30 Nov 1826, Stretton on Fosse
Thomas Long
Son of Joseph and Susanna Gaunt
Stretton
Labourer
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTG3-M6C?i=16

Burial, Stetton, 1 April 1828
Thomas Long Gauntt
age 16 months
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTG3-QMM?i=6

Burial, Stetton, 1 April 1828
Thomas Long Gauntt

Or just Gaunt?
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 October 20 16:46 BST (UK)
That is interesting John as the Thomas I had seen was not born until 1844  :)

GAUNT, THOMAS       mmn LONG 
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in SHIPSTON ON STOUR  Volume 11  Page 411
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 13 October 20 16:52 BST (UK)
Edwin was next.
I'm not convinced that Joseph's father would have been an Edwin!
Title: Re: Joseph Gaunt born 1792
Post by: Broderer on Tuesday 13 October 20 17:22 BST (UK)
Joseph & Susannahís eldest son was called Edwin. He died in Canada.
On Josephís headstone, it says that he originated in Staffordshire