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Title: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Maid of Kent on Thursday 15 October 20 13:55 BST (UK)
1871 with parents and siblings in Biddenden
1881 dito
1891 with father widower and brother at home in Biddenden
1893 married Harriet Springett
1895 lee giles whitehead born in Willesborough Kent was bap in Biddenden mother Elizabeth Whitehead ? who was the father.
1901 liviing in Biddenden with Harriet and Lee Whitehead adop daughter. aged 7
1910 Harriet died
1911 living alone with a housekeeper Thrift Villa Kenardington Kent mil was also there. no Lee
1917 married Ruth
1920 daughter Phoebe born
1939 living in Tenterden with Ruth and her sister Mabel is also there, Ruth's sil wife of her brother Henry known as Harry no Phoebe or Lee
1940 died
the above is the short version of the life of Frank Giles. My interest here is what happened to
 Lee Whitehead given in the 1901 census as his adoptive daughter. I found a baptism for Lee Giles Whitehead 2.10.1895 in Biddenden mother given as Elizabeth no father second name of Giles made my ears prick up and I cant help feel that there is some connection. I have always thought that Lee was a boys name but on the census it says adopt daug. Cant find Lee any further down the line.
also his second child Phoebe with his second wife is nowhere to be found. Any help is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehouse
Post by: Maid of Kent on Thursday 15 October 20 14:02 BST (UK)
sorry made a mistake its Lee Giles Whitehead
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 15 October 20 15:07 BST (UK)
You can go back into your first post and change it  ;D
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 15 October 20 16:03 BST (UK)
There appears to be no record of any birth at all.  This is the info from Family Search

Lee Giles Whitehead, christened on 2 October 1895 at Biddenden, Kent.  Mother Elizabeth Whitehead.

No image available for the above.

I have found the below on Find My Past, again no image available.

Born on 10th March 1894 and baptised on 27 October 1895 at Biddenden, Kent

Giles Whitehead, son of Elizabeth - stated as illegitimate.

The Family Search record does not state whether the child is son of or daughter of.

Is this the same child?????
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 15 October 20 16:08 BST (UK)
There appears to be no record of any birth at all.  This is the info from Family Search

Lee Giles Whitehead, christened on 2 October 1895 at Biddenden, Kent.  Mother Elizabeth Whitehead.

No image available for the above.

I have found the below on Find My Past, again no image available.

Born on 10th March 1894 and baptised on 27 October 1895 at Biddenden, Kent

Giles Whitehead, son of Elizabeth - stated as illegitimate.

The Family Search record does not state whether the child is son of or daughter of.

Is this the same child?????

The baptism with image on FindMyPast has the name as William Giles Whitehead but it doesn't look like William to me , maybe the transcriber thought it was Wm for William . Abode of mother is entered as Biddenden but has been crossed out and changed to London.
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Maid of Kent on Thursday 15 October 20 16:12 BST (UK)
looks like it, on the 1901 census with Frank and Harriet, cant find anything after that have looked under Whitehead and Giles
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Barbara F on Thursday 15 October 20 16:14 BST (UK)
This might be the birth reg.

WHITEHEAD, LOU        -     
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in PADDINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 46

This ties in with the Biddenden Parish Register entry for a Whitehead child, illegitimate, where the abode was London. This baptism is indexed as William Giles Whitehead but looks to me like Lu or Lee.

Barbara
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: cath151 on Thursday 15 October 20 16:20 BST (UK)
Good finds
Looks like Lu on the 1901 Census too.
Cathy
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Maid of Kent on Thursday 15 October 20 16:52 BST (UK)
Thats what I thought at first until I saw the baptism
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 15 October 20 16:56 BST (UK)
I don't know if this is of any interest at all.  I found a travel record for a Luella Whitehead age 42, born 1893, address given as Low Royd?, Apperley? Bridge, Bradford.

With her are two children Consuela? age 16 (1919) and Donald age 12 (1923) going to Argentina.

There is a birth record for Donald which could well be him:-

Births Jun 1923   
Whitehead    Donald    Whitehead    Rochdale    8e   110

Can't find a birth record for Consuela. 

I cannot see a birth record for Luella around 1893, so could this be Lou?
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 15 October 20 17:03 BST (UK)
Luella Whitehead seems to be on many a passenger list - she seems to go backwards and forwards across the ocean every few years!  So I wonder if she started life somewhere other then England?

In which case she isn't our Lu. 
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 15 October 20 17:05 BST (UK)
And she often travels with a Donald of the same age as herself - presumably a husband. 

Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 15 October 20 17:19 BST (UK)
Definitely isn't.

I did a further check and found an immigration record for a Consuelo Whitehead de Donaldson born 1.6.1918, parents Donald Whitehead and Luella Brandenburg.

Co-incidental that the surname was Whitehead.

Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: MaureeninNY on Friday 16 October 20 15:08 BST (UK)
This might be the birth reg.

WHITEHEAD, LOU        -     
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in PADDINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 46

This ties in with the Biddenden Parish Register entry for a Whitehead child, illegitimate, where the abode was London. This baptism is indexed as William Giles Whitehead but looks to me like Lu or Lee.

Barbara

Great find!

On the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records (Ancestry) there's an Elizabeth WHITEHEAD b 1864 admitted to Westminster/Paddington workhouse 18 Jan 1894 and discharged 24 Jul 1894.
Also a record for Lou WHITEHEAD (transcribed as Len) born 8 Mar 1894 and discharged 24 Jul 1894.

Makes you wonder if the adoption was arranged and the middle name "Giles" was added at the baptism as a nod to the adoptive parents.

Still can't find her post 1901 though.

Maureen
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Barbara F on Friday 16 October 20 15:48 BST (UK)
Brilliant!  That ties in well.

Might be worth trying to trace Elizabeth and see if she married.  Maybe her daughter could be with her under Elizabeths' married name.  Also tracing Elizabeth back might reveal a connection with Frank or his wife Harriet.

Barbara
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Maid of Kent on Friday 16 October 20 15:57 BST (UK)
This certainly ties in very well. Does this mean that Lee was born in London and not Willesborough as stated on the 1901 census?
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: MaureeninNY on Friday 16 October 20 17:17 BST (UK)
This certainly ties in very well. Does this mean that Lee was born in London and not Willesborough as stated on the 1901 census?


Well-the birth reg that Barbara found fits with the workhouse records (and the 1895 baptism) so I'd say that Lou/Lee was born in London(Paddington).

Maureen
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Maid of Kent on Friday 16 October 20 22:38 BST (UK)
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975N
Name:   Giles Whitehead
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   27 Oct 1895
Baptism Place:   Biddenden, Kent, England
Mother:   Elizabeth Whitehead
FHL Film Number:   1785995

just found this Lou was a boy and on the 1901 census with Frank and Harriet Giles it says adop daug, which i understood as daughter. is this a mistranscribe.? I cant find Lou on any further records be it under Giles or Whitehead. If this indeed the child reg as

Lou Whitehouse  1894 jan feb march  Paddington London
















Reference ID:   it2 p24 n195
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Barbara F on Saturday 17 October 20 09:50 BST (UK)
The baptism register image does not state the sex of the child.  Nor does it say son or daughter.

When searching the GRO register the entry comes up on a search for females.

Perhaps you should buy the birth certificate?

Have you investigated the wider families of the couple who adopted the child to find possible links with her and her mother?

Barbara
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Maid of Kent on Saturday 17 October 20 12:02 BST (UK)
yes Barbara I'll buy the birth cert. it still think its strange that on the 1911 census Lu is given as daughter and born in Willesborough, Kent which is only a few miles away from where Harriet was born.
I have looked every which way to try and connect Elizabeth Whitehead with the Giles family and also Harriet's family, without any success.
What I now thinking is that lou was born in the London Workhouse and somehow Elizabeth Whitehouse moved to Willesborough where there is Ashford workhouse. The Giles family got lou from the Ashford workhouse and not knowing where he was born just thought in was the Willesborough workhouse. but still not sure how the adoptive daughter came on the census. If only we could find him/her on any other record. oh well back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: MaureeninNY on Saturday 17 October 20 12:17 BST (UK)
Not really sure the birth cert would help. :-\

Maybe dob  abode workhouse ,etc.

Maureen
Title: Re: Lee Giles Whitehead
Post by: Maid of Kent on Saturday 17 October 20 13:58 BST (UK)
Just a ? adout Elizabeth Whitehead's stay in the Workhouse. it states
'by whom admitted W' and 'Institution W' what does this W stand for ? Workhouse??