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Title: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: moo on Friday 16 October 20 14:08 BST (UK)
Good Afternoon

Could anyone help with the following please

I have Harriet Arliss born approx 1800 Louth, she married Joseph Askey about 1840. they had two children Ann and Mary Jane. I believe Harriet dies between 1861 and 1871. In 1861 she is married and living Little Lane, Louth. In 1871 her husband Joseph and daughter Mary Jane are still living at Little Lane, then in 1881 Joseph has remarried.

Any help with Harriet's details would be most gratefully received.

Regards
Moo

Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 16 October 20 14:31 BST (UK)
Hi the 1851 shows Harriet Askey as b 1812?
Baptism Harriet Arliss 24th November 1811 Louth St James Father William Mother Frances
Keyboard86

PS in 1841 Harriet Askey b c 1816, in household is a Frances Arliss aged 12
Census ref HO107/639/ 17/54 / 22
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: moo on Friday 16 October 20 14:43 BST (UK)
Thank you Keyboard86

I shall look at 1841 Census again.

Regards

Moo
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 16 October 20 14:52 BST (UK)
Thank you Keyboard86

I shall look at 1841 Census again.

Regards

Moo

Frances Arliss was baptised 25th April 1829 Louth St James Father William Mother Frances
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: moo on Friday 16 October 20 15:42 BST (UK)
Hi Keyboard86

I have found on Anc web site that there could be 4/5 other children George, Sarah, Matthew, Francis? and Peter all born Louth to a William and Frances Arliss, still unable to find a death date for Harriet.

Thank you for the help. ;D

Regards
Moo

Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 16 October 20 15:56 BST (UK)
Harriet Arliss married Joseph Askey at Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull 19 February 1835 by Licence
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 16 October 20 17:12 BST (UK)
Hi again, a few more on FindMyPast including a John Pawson Arliss 2nd December 1806 Lough St James, possible marriage William Arliss to Frances Pawson 9th November 1806 ,but that would make Frances possibly pretty old, when William/Frances baptised Frances 1829
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: BillyF on Friday 16 October 20 19:16 BST (UK)
I think you`ve the right marriage for William Arliss and Frances Pawson.

FreeReg has a baptism for William Arliss on the 8th July 1784 at St James Church Louth, making him about 22 at the time.

I couldn`t find a baptism for Frances, although there are a few Pawsons in Louth at that time.

I checked the baptisms for any others between Harriet in 1811 and the 1829. There are lot of Arlisses but none with William and Frances as parents.

Then I`ve looked for any burials, to see if they had any infant deaths; this was the result.

Mary Arliss dau of Frances Arliss on 3rd Nov 1808 "a base child" ? St James
Jane dau of William Arliss on 5th Dec 1811 ?                                            "
Peter age 7 on 7th Aug 1815                                                                  "

It doesn`t equate with the Anc find!
Then there`s this baptism, Sarah on the 10th April 1833 mother Harriet Arliss singlewoman.
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: David Outner on Friday 16 October 20 21:35 BST (UK)
Askey/Askew/Ayscough was a fairly common name in the Louth area; so there may be problems of identification.  The Louth rating list for 1851 showed Joseph Askey as the tenant of a low value house in the Monks' Dyke area (which included Little Lane).  He may, or may not, be the same Joseph who was convicted of various Louth thefts at Lindsey Quarter Sessions in 1847 and sentenced to nine months hard labour; the surname was given as Askey in the Lincolnshire Chronicle but Askew in court documents.
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 16 October 20 22:00 BST (UK)
just to note Joseph is listed as married not widowed in 1871
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 16 October 20 22:48 BST (UK)
Hi there is this baptism for a Frances Pawson, 1st July 1786 Louth St James Father John Mother Frances
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: BillyF on Saturday 17 October 20 13:34 BST (UK)
I must need new glasses !! I missed that one !! It fits in nicely with William`s baptism, but it does indeed make Frances old to have  a child in 1829, but not impossible. It`s strange there`s a big gap in ages.

Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 17 October 20 17:11 BST (UK)
There is a burial 25th October 1835  at Louth St James of a Frances Arliss aged 50 Spouse William?
Keyboard86

PS found a couple of possible marriages of other baptisms, William seems to have been a Butcher.
Will post later..
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: BillyF on Saturday 17 October 20 18:22 BST (UK)
FreeREg has Frances as the wife of William, this fits the baptism of Frances Pawson in 1786.

There were quite a few Arlisses in Louth at the same time, some others were also butchers.

PS another look at baptisms for William Arliss there are 2 close together, the same with burials. It may give difficulty deciding which one is which !

Another PS: FreeREg: Harriet Askey aged 59, buried April 1870,  in Louth Municipal Cemetery. I think this her.
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: BillyF on Saturday 17 October 20 18:59 BST (UK)
There is a death listed on FreeBMD for a Joseph Askey aged 80 Louth 1897. Also a baptism for Joseph Askey 18th June 1815 at Louth St James.
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 17 October 20 21:24 BST (UK)
FreeREg has Frances as the wife of William, this fits the baptism of Frances Pawson in 1786.

There were quite a few Arlisses in Louth at the same time, some others were also butchers.

PS another look at baptisms for William Arliss there are 2 close together, the same with burials. It may give difficulty deciding which one is which !

Another PS: FreeREg: Harriet Askey aged 59, buried April 1870,  in Louth Municipal Cemetery. I think this her.


This registration?

Harriet Ayscough
Age at Death:    59
Registration   Apr-May-Jun 1870     Louth Vol 7a p334
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: DCB on Sunday 18 October 20 10:52 BST (UK)
Stamford Mercury 22 April 1870:-

At Louth - On the 15th, Harriet wife of Mr. Jos Ayscough, aged 69

In the newspaper archive it is transcribed as Joa Ayscongh

"The surname is found recorded in Middle English as "Akeskeugh", but in the modern idiom, the variants include: Haskew, Ascough, Ayscough, Askey, Askie and Haskey." - https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Ayscough

David
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: moo on Friday 23 October 20 12:40 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone

You have all be wonderful. I shall certainly follow up with all the information you have provided

Happy Days  ;D ;D

Regards
Moo
Title: Re: Harriet Arliss then Askey- Louth
Post by: BillyF on Friday 23 October 20 15:08 BST (UK)
Good luck!! You`ve quite a bit to go at!!

it`s fortunate that there seems to be a lot of records about this family on FreeReg, which you can cross reference with other sources.