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Title: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: zetlander on Friday 16 October 20 18:31 BST (UK)
If lockdown/facemasks/social distancing etc eradicates Covid 19 then shouldn't all other infectious illnesses be eradicated because we van't 'catch' them from others ??
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Romilly on Friday 16 October 20 18:32 BST (UK)

Children don’t have to wear masks!

And they pass a lot of things on...

Romilly.
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Mckha489 on Friday 16 October 20 19:12 BST (UK)
https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/j54a57/weekly_flu_tracker_update_5_october_2020/

You can see what happened to the flu season here in NZ in the graph at that link.

I was speaking to a high school teacher the other day who was saying it was remarkable how there was not the usual coughing and sneezing in class during the winter. “Such a pleasant change”.

They did encourage vaccinations, but there wasn’t enough for everyone, only for “the vulnerable” and frontline health professionals,  and a few extra, and there were some delays and distribution issues. 

Since  we came out of lockdown, end of April, the schools have been operating as usual, just with increased use of sanitisers and to please stay home if any sign of “the symptoms”. 
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: bearkat on Friday 16 October 20 19:36 BST (UK)
That link is interesting.

I wonder how many fewer tummy bugs have been going around with the extra hand washing & sanitising.
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Roobarb on Friday 16 October 20 21:54 BST (UK)
Measles was eradicated in the UK until that irresponsible and idiotic doctor frightened parents into not having their children vaccinated. People spreading the myth on social media has made that situation worse. Perhaps if parents could again be persuaded to have their children vaccinated, that dreadful disease could be eradicated again. 
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Guy Etchells on Saturday 17 October 20 08:26 BST (UK)
Measles was eradicated in the UK until that irresponsible and idiotic doctor frightened parents into not having their children vaccinated. People spreading the myth on social media has made that situation worse. Perhaps if parents could again be persuaded to have their children vaccinated, that dreadful disease could be eradicated again. 

Sorry but you are wrong, measles was never eradicated in the UK, it was eliminated meaning it was no longer native to the UK but there were still outbreaks of measles in the UK during that time due to people coming in from foreign lands (i.e. the same way covid-19 came to the UK).

In addition if the government had allowed parents to have their children given the separate vaccinations for Measles, Mumps and Rubella, instead of withdrawing them, the problem could have been mitigated if not completely removed.
So the blame is not all on one side as many like to claim.
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 17 October 20 09:15 BST (UK)
In my part of the world ... over 900 hospital admissions for influenza last winter. This year there was 1.
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: mowsehowse on Saturday 17 October 20 09:47 BST (UK)
If lockdown/facemasks/social distancing etc eradicates Covid 19 then shouldn't all other infectious illnesses be eradicated because we can't 'catch' them from others ??

The meaning of ERADICATE is: destroy completely; put an end to.

Adhering to the hands, face, space maxim will help to reduce the reproduction rates of infection, but it won't eradicate the virus.
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Roobarb on Saturday 17 October 20 10:54 BST (UK)
Okay I used the wrong word, having had only four hours sleep the night before perhaps made me a little less careful. I still lay the blame squarely at the door of Andrew Wakefield.
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: mowsehowse on Saturday 17 October 20 11:05 BST (UK)
Woah, steady Roobarb.... you only used the word used by Zetlander, the OP which was what  l quoted.  :)
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Roobarb on Saturday 17 October 20 12:54 BST (UK)
No offence intended mowsehowse, I was responding to Guy's post when he told me I was wrong.  :)
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Romilly on Saturday 17 October 20 13:03 BST (UK)
Anti-vaccing isn’t a new phenomenon...

My parents wouldn’t have any of their four children vaccinated. Apparently some friends of theirs had lost a baby after vaccination in the late 1940’s.

My sisters and I had the usual childhood viruses, chicken pox, German measles, hooping cough, etc, but nothing major or fatal.

Unlike many of my contemporaries, I have no vaccination marks on my arms, but I had to have the polio sugar cube before I started teaching.

However, when it came to my daughter, (and that was about the time that Andrew Wakefield was pontificating on autism and the triple vaccine) she had them all.

Romilly.
Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: Guy Etchells on Saturday 17 October 20 14:36 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: roopat on Saturday 17 October 20 14:46 BST (UK)
I taught a lovely girl who caught measles from younger siblings, aged about 13. She died. It was the first time I was aware measles could be so serious, particularly in older children.


All these so-called simple childhood illnesses can have nasty implications - rubella dangerous to unborn babies, (I think) measles can cause blindness as well as death, mumps can cause sterility in males, the chicken-pox virus can lie dormant & strike an adult as shingles - a very unpleasant & debilitating illness.


Pat



Title: Re: No more flu - measles - chickenpox ??
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 17 October 20 15:09 BST (UK)
As a child I was always encouraged to visit those who had "childhood" illnesses.  However, I've only ever had measles (twice) and German measles.  I nursed my husband and daughter when they caught chicken pox, and we'd all been in contact with the same "donor".  But then, we're all different, aren't we?