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Title: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Corryn on Monday 19 October 20 12:51 BST (UK)
Mark Drakeford, Wales First Minister has just announced that from 6pm Friday Wales is to go into 2 week "firebreak" lockdown with restrictions similar to those that were in place during the national lockdown ie non essential shops to close, essential journeys only, work from home, no mixing of households (some exceptions). Primary and special schools to re-open after half term.

At last we are not going to reinstate Offa's Dyke!! I can put my spade away.  :D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Monday 19 October 20 12:54 BST (UK)
I was hoping that it would be re-instated - keep those pesky angles out  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Viktoria on Monday 19 October 20 13:00 BST (UK)
I feel the whole country should do likewise ,or at least those areas  worst affected.

People,well some-  are not  really serious about it all and need  a shock to bring them to their senses .
Others  are really trying and keeping to strict guidelines , but to little or no avail when others are being irresponsible and selfish.

Howeve,very mixed messages - for example why have some gyms to close and others stay open and it is not because the areas are at different levels -
mean confusion and mis - understandings .
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Corryn on Monday 19 October 20 13:02 BST (UK)
Gadget,
I would have loved to dig it. :D :D

Corryn
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Corryn on Monday 19 October 20 13:05 BST (UK)
Viktoria,
At least in Wales we know what the rules are.  One for all and all for one.

Corryn
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Monday 19 October 20 13:08 BST (UK)
Cymru am byth  :)

Viktoria was close by - she stayed with rellies in Shropshire for a while.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: groom on Monday 19 October 20 13:12 BST (UK)
 Well done Mark Drakeford. It makes sense to me and, judging by opinion polls, the majority of people think that England should do the same, Doctors and scientists have advised it, so why is Boris Johnson being so stubborn and refusing to consider it for England? At the moment, as rules differ from county to county and town to town, people haven't a clue what they can and can't do. A short lock down would solve all that.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Viktoria on Monday 19 October 20 13:13 BST (UK)
 Corryn,
Oh it is still there but very shallow in many places.
Would not keep a fly out nowadays.
I know the bit from Hope Shropshire to Church Stoke .
Our kids were very disappointed at how shallow it was .
But ,so old it is amazing it is there at all.

Viktoria.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: jillruss on Monday 19 October 20 13:39 BST (UK)
Well done Mark Drakeford. It makes sense to me and, judging by opinion polls, the majority of people think that England should do the same, Doctors and scientists have advised it, so why is Boris Johnson being so stubborn and refusing to consider it for England? At the moment, as rules differ from county to county and town to town, people haven't a clue what they can and can't do. A short lock down would solve all that.

1. Most importantly (to him), he doesn't want to be seen to be doing what Starmer has called for.
2. He would have to fork out more money to the employers and employees affected. The government say they can't afford it, but do magically manage to find millions to give to their inept pals who are supposedly 'organising' and to the private consultants who are 'advising' trick or treat, sorry track and trace.
3. He's more bothered about Brexit now, so is leaving covid to Hancock who is too busy telling crass jokes and drinking in the Commons bar after 10pm to exercise the few brain cells he has left.
4. It would only work for as long as the lockdown lasted plus a couple of weeks, then the numbers would rise again. Then he'd have to think of something else or admit they haven't got a clue.
5. Dominic Cummings probably told him not to.

This absolutely floored me when I saw it on Sky News last night:

"During a House of Commons select committee hearing last Tuesday, care minister Helen Whately said "specific facilities" would be set up for care home residents who have the virus as part of the Winter Care Plan.

But those facilities - in the vast majority of cases - will be within existing care homes, Care England, which represents independent care providers, has told Sky News.

Providers who have spoken to Sky News have said it is virtually impossible to contain the illness unless patients are cared for in an entirely separate buildin
g".

Have they learned nothing????
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: radstockjeff on Monday 19 October 20 14:17 BST (UK)
Just spotted this on Fakebook...........

"On the same day back in July, when Victoria (Aus) recorded 723 cases the Uk recorded 763.
Today (Sunday) Victoria records 1 case...UK recorded 15650.
Don't ever let the people who called for the end of lockdown forget this"


Or in fact those who are vehemently opposed to lockdown in the first place.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: mazi on Monday 19 October 20 14:22 BST (UK)
But we know what the master plan is, England, Wales and Scotland, they are buying time in the hope that an effective vaccine will arrive.

So slow down the inevitable deaths, stop hospitals being overwhelmed (whatever happened to the nightingales) and hope you might get re elected.

The care home problem is unsolvable, so long as people need close personal attention feeding washing  dressing etc and you have no way of knowing if your staff are symptomless silent spreaders what can you do?

How can China test 11 million in three days, spain can test Milan, we can only loosely test a couple of hundred thousand less those who were sent to a nonexistent test centre.

Even here on rootschat we have people abiding by the rules, but still doing permitted things which I think are unwise, so I use commonsense, basically don’t mix with anyone indoors and don’t go near a restaurant.


Mike
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Monday 19 October 20 14:31 BST (UK)
Same here, Mike  :)
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: mazi on Monday 19 October 20 14:40 BST (UK)
Just spotted this on Fakebook...........

"On the same day back in July, when Victoria (Aus) recorded 723 cases the Uk recorded 763.
Today (Sunday) Victoria records 1 case...UK recorded 15650.
Don't ever let the people who called for the end of lockdown forget this"


Or in fact those who are vehemently opposed to lockdown in the first place.

We are not really comparable, Australia’s cities are spread out, most of ours are within a couple of hours from the rest, I could and did visit two or three in the course of a days work, so long as people are at work the virus will spread.

Interestingly the Welsh first minister said he is buying time, not that he is solving the problem.

All lockdown does is postpone the inevitable.

Mike
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Viktoria on Monday 19 October 20 15:44 BST (UK)
Apart from the Hospital for eyes ,and skin lesion that needed checking and Drs, for  flu jab and five minutes at Tesco  I have not left the house since lockdown .
Granted my son took me to hospital and  Drs, but he is my  “bubble “.
Yes a walk, but alone and in a very quiet cemetery when I almost never see anyone else and distancing is perfectly easy.
The nearest anyone has been to me is horrible neighbour !
At Hospital tomorrow ,eyes, again.
So son will take me and wait outside ,drive me home but not come in the house.
Can’t do any less really other than to neglect things .

Politics and finance are ruling things now, perhaps something like a Wartime Coalition Government is the answer.
It   seemed to work with Attlee and Churchill , however it was known where the “enemy” was pretty well then ,we could go get him,this Phew !
We owe our NHS to those Socialist Politicians in great part , Bevan ,Bevin  Morrison ,etc
I remember it well,and how Drs opposed it!
Oh dear, such a long way to go and no end in sight .
I am so glad my O H is not here ,for him, he would be so upset not seeing Flash Harry as he grows up and our grandchildren as responsible adults .
Our children almost pensioners themselves ,well the boys .
I know how I feel , so he would too.
We can but do our best ,abd hope others come to their senses too.
Hope everyone and your families are alright ,I know there are health problems amongst RootsChatters , and great sadness too.
All are thought about .
Viktoria.



Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: radstockjeff on Monday 19 October 20 16:05 BST (UK)
Just spotted this on Fakebook...........

"On the same day back in July, when Victoria (Aus) recorded 723 cases the Uk recorded 763.
Today (Sunday) Victoria records 1 case...UK recorded 15650.
Don't ever let the people who called for the end of lockdown forget this"


Or in fact those who are vehemently opposed to lockdown in the first place.

We are not really comparable, Australia’s cities are spread out, most of ours are within a couple of hours from the rest, I could and did visit two or three in the course of a days work, so long as people are at work the virus will spread.

Interestingly the Welsh first minister said he is buying time, not that he is solving the problem.

All lockdown does is postpone the inevitable.

Mike

Approximately 94% of the Victoria cases were in Metropolitan Melbourne, the remainder spread across the state.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 20 October 20 01:26 BST (UK)

Even here on rootschat we have people abiding by the rules, but still doing permitted things which I think are unwise, so I use commonsense, basically don’t mix with anyone indoors and don’t go near a restaurant.

Mike

I've been trying today to stop my Mrs P meeting up with her friends even though they claim to distance.

Also the Rule of Six (mixing of ones from different households) I feel is too dangerous as it also increases the risk.
 ----------
This SARS-CoV-2 is like the stuff of Sci- Fi.

Mark
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 20 October 20 01:45 BST (UK)
"perhaps something like a Wartime Coalition Government is the answer."

Viktoria I have said this right from the very beginning but I have my doubts as to whether it would work

We all have to be sensible

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: mazi on Tuesday 20 October 20 10:18 BST (UK)

Even here on rootschat we have people abiding by the rules, but still doing permitted things which I think are unwise, so I use commonsense, basically don’t mix with anyone indoors and don’t go near a restaurant.

Mike

I've been trying today to stop my Mrs P meeting up with her friends even though they claim to distance.

Also the Rule of Six (mixing of ones from different households) I feel is too dangerous as it also increases the risk.
 ----------
Looking at Scientist Reports today, this SARS-CoV-2 is like the stuff of Sci- Fi.

Mark

It’s a decision we will all have to make eventually, do we continue to live an an intolerable life or do we take our chance.

I think the crunch will come the first sunny day next spring, with or without a vaccine.

Oh for an instant test, an antibody test and confirmation or denial the having caught it you have a period of immunity.

Stop talking super scientists and get on with it.

Mike
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 20 October 20 10:20 BST (UK)
I'm really concerned about Mrs P. You must drive her mad at times, Mark  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 20 October 20 10:28 BST (UK)
I have filled out the questionnaire re antibody test, awaiting instructions

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 20 October 20 10:35 BST (UK)

Oh for an instant test, an antibody test and confirmation or denial the having caught it you have a period of immunity.
 ...
Mike

We cannot rely on immunity acquired by natural infection according to ...

The Lancet 12th October 2020
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30783-0/fulltext

"Thus, reinfection cases tell us that we cannot rely on immunity acquired by natural infection to confer herd immunity; not only is this strategy lethal for many but also it is not effective."
 ----------
Mark
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: mazi on Tuesday 20 October 20 12:21 BST (UK)
Looks like it’s back to Mother Nature and the survival ot the fittest, then :o

Never mind, I was 80 last Saturday so I can now behave as disgracefully as I like.

What shall I do,  maybe after I have finished stacking the load of logs and got a final coat of paint on the ceiling I’ll........,  I’ll.....,     I know, I’ll  drive into Wales, through Hay, and back into England on the main road.

Mike
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: zetlander on Tuesday 20 October 20 13:00 BST (UK)
if Clawdd Offa is to be re-instated can we Taffs who live to the East of it have some warning to get ourselves  back 'Home' before the borders are closed.
Gadget - can you manage a slight detour to South Yorkshire - pick me up and I'll go halves on fuel.

My late grandfather told me that Welsh is the only language spoken in Heaven!
My late grandmother recalls having to wear the W.N. (Welsh Not) label in her Bala school - the last child who had it at the end of the day got caned.

and how often have we Taffs living in England heard about the English folk on a holiday in Wales going into a pub and all the local immediately started talking Welsh....... I always ask what were they speaking before they walked in.......

Anyway Gadget I'll have my Y Ddraig Goch Flag so you can identify me - 
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 20 October 20 13:36 BST (UK)
Wow Maria, you will get an increase in your pension of 25p per week, please tell me what you are going to do with it?, think my husband is saving is up for a year , originally thought we would treat ourselves to fish and chips, not do, we need to save for 2 years

Happy belated birthday greetings

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: mazi on Tuesday 20 October 20 15:54 BST (UK)
I am celebrating because I have a date for my CT scan, only been waiting 9 months.

14 weeks of saving my 25p will pay for the parking ;D ;D

Mike
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Fisherman on Tuesday 20 October 20 16:26 BST (UK)
Mike
Not only are we going to re-instate Offa's Dyke we are also mobilising the FWA (Free Wales Army) to guard the border  :D :D


Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 20 October 20 16:30 BST (UK)
I am celebrating because I have a date for my CT scan, only been waiting 9 months.

14 weeks of saving my 25p will pay for the parking ;D ;D

Mike

All the best Mike

I was very fortunate, my Doctor referred me as an urgent.

I had to get up in the early hours of the morning to get there, they were still on the night shift.

Mark
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: zetlander on Tuesday 20 October 20 16:43 BST (UK)
1978-2008 - 228 houses used as second homes burnt - no one ever caught and convicted.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: mazi on Tuesday 20 October 20 16:48 BST (UK)
Mike
Not only are we going to re-instate Offa's Dyke we are also mobilising the FWA (Free Wales Army) to guard the border  :D :D




If you reinstate Offa’s Dyke that will put me into wales, I am west of the dyke but east of the border.
I could be a stateless person  ;D ;D ;D

Mike
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 20 October 20 16:55 BST (UK)
My mother was born  in 1910, she got an extra 25p  when it was first introduced and it hasn't changed since, neither has the £10 Christmas bonus, BUT  we do get e free bus pass
I did say this year if we couldn't see our family and had to spend Christmas on our own I would see how far the £20    would go towards a Christmas dinner just for fun.

Take care

LM
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Fisherman on Tuesday 20 October 20 16:58 BST (UK)
Mike
You will be Ok.
We will annex all land west of the Dyke therefore retuning it to its original status as part of Wales.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 20 October 20 16:59 BST (UK)
Woooooooooo - only another 4 1/2 years to go  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Will we still be in suspended animation
Will we still be talking about Brexit
What about Trump
How long will my hair be
etc. etc etc.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:05 BST (UK)
Only a thought - if you reinstate Offa's Dyke, will you also accept back all those Welsh-born people who have left the country? 

You'll be pleased to know that you won't have to accept me - I was born on the Cheshire side of Chester - in Hoole actually, so I can genuinely claim to be a Hooligan.  ;D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Fisherman on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:26 BST (UK)
BumbleB
As they always say "All cases will be dealt with on an individual basis"  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:27 BST (UK)
Can I be on the nationality panel that deals with the likes of Miss B ;D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:37 BST (UK)
You'll be pleased to know that I'm not going to be applying  :-* :-* :-X
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Fisherman on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:42 BST (UK)
Gadget
As you are a Welsh speaker you can be chair.  ;D
Don't forget to collect the large bribes fees
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Corryn on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:51 BST (UK)
Fisherman,
Annexing bits of another country wont work.
Someone tried that in the 1930's  ;D ;D

Corryn
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: mazi on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:52 BST (UK)
Will I have to learn the language if I am relocated, after 20 years I’ve only just got the hang of Araf,
And I still think that Ar Werth is a national chain of estate agents.
 :) :)

Mike
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Corryn on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:54 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 20 October 20 17:57 BST (UK)
Only rusty Welsh, Fisherman. 
However,  can I submit my ethnicity according to Ancestry :

 :-X :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: zetlander on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:03 BST (UK)
100% Welsh Speaker here -
- when I moved to deepest Yorkshire many years ago I took the advice of an old aunt who said that if I  read a bit of Welsh every day I wouldn't lose my Welsh - I also have access to S4C - so I'm doing alright!
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:05 BST (UK)
Mike
Not only are we going to re-instate Offa's Dyke we are also mobilising the FWA (Free Wales Army) to guard the border  :D :D



If you reinstate Offa’s Dyke that will put me into wales, I am west of the dyke but east of the border.
I could be a stateless person  ;D ;D ;D

Mike

No bins emptied, No road repairs, no non-existant street cleaning  ;D  ;D

You could be Monarch  :) of your Principality or would that be Gadget  :) and collect your own Council Tax?

Mark
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: zetlander on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:08 BST (UK)
Will I have to learn the language if I am relocated, after 20 years I’ve only just got the hang of Araf,
And I still think that Ar Werth is a national chain of estate agents.
 :) :)

Mike

my sister in law lives in mid-Wales and works freelance as a Welsh teacher for the Police Health and Education Authorities - many senior post holders need a basic knowledge of Welsh to progress in their careers and that's what she does.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:10 BST (UK)
I am descended from Owain Glyndwr's sister Lowri  according to the Griffiths Pedigrees

 8) 8) 8)

PS - and I was a member of the Urdd
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Fisherman on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:12 BST (UK)
I have to confess, although I can speak Welsh and have lived in deepest Mid Wales since the 1950's I was born the other side of the Dyke.   I'll get my coat  :D :D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:21 BST (UK)
I am descended from Owain Glyndwr's sister Lowri  according to the Griffiths Pedigrees

 8) 8) 8)

PS - and I was a member of the Urdd

Gadget could be Monarch of your Principality Mike, collect the C/Tax and empty your bin?  ;D  ;D

Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:29 BST (UK)
I think you might be better with the bins, Mark  8)
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Corryn on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:45 BST (UK)
Fisherman,
Don't forget you might have a claim through our Corbet ancestor, Margaret, who married Gwenwynwyn ap Owain, Prince of Powys.  :D

Corryn
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 20 October 20 18:58 BST (UK)
I think you might be better with the bins, Mark  8)

I have delegated bins to one of my Villeins.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: zetlander on Tuesday 20 October 20 19:14 BST (UK)
I am descended from Owain Glyndwr's sister Lowri  according to the Griffiths Pedigrees

 8) 8) 8)

PS - and I was a member of the Urdd

re Yr Urdd   --    I Gymru - I Gyd-ddyn - I Grist  -
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Llwyd on Tuesday 20 October 20 19:50 BST (UK)
1978-2008 - 228 houses used as second homes burnt - no one ever caught and convicted.

But there was a very inept attempt to stitch up someone.  :-X
 :)

Addendum - you will all, no doubt, be relieved to know that, despite the "lockdown"/"firebreak" in Wales, the filming of I'm A Celebrity Get Mr Out Of Here is able to take place at Castell Gwrych.
I'm so happy that all's well with the world.  ::)
 :)
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Llwyd on Wednesday 21 October 20 22:38 BST (UK)
Already in Wales it is being mooted that further lockdowns firebreaks (a rose by any other name) may be required early in the New Year.
Like a spiral in a circle, like a wheel within a wheel, never ending or beginning..............
 :)
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Fisherman on Friday 23 October 20 08:57 BST (UK)
Had a message overnight on NHS app that mid Wales has moved from low risk to high. :o :(
Stay safe all.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Llwyd on Friday 23 October 20 22:29 BST (UK)
Had a message overnight on NHS app that mid Wales has moved from low risk to high. :o :(
Stay safe all.

I've seen no mention of that on any website with news about Wales. However, because we have now gone back into a lockdown, slightly less harsh, but not much, than the last one, it is somewhat irrelevant because hardly anyone can go anywhere.
Now it seems we are to be faced with other restrictions when this current one ends. The local county/town/city lockdowns will, apparently, not be reinstated. The WG is currently deciding what to do and, as I've already pointed out, we may have further such lockdowns after New Year  ............   Carry on - Er gwaetha pawb a phopeth .........
 :)

Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: guest189040 on Friday 23 October 20 22:40 BST (UK)
I am descended from Owain Glyndwr's sister Lowri  according to the Griffiths Pedigrees

 8) 8) 8)

PS - and I was a member of the Urdd

Hello Cousin.

My 20th Great Grandfather was Owain Glyndwr himself.

Via his Daughter Janet who married John de Croft then into the Strickland family.

Only 7% Welsh despite 150+ years on Monmouthshire ancestry.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Mowsehowse on Saturday 24 October 20 08:48 BST (UK)
The person with the ultimate control over England was quite clear from the outset at the start of 2020....
"We will just have to take it on the chin that we will loose some of our loved ones before their time".

Job done.
Before he went off for a relaxing weekend, he couldn't even be bothered to impose a travel ban on tier 3 areas, to prevent them from holidaying and spreading the disease in areas which have not yet entered tier 3.

Not to worry, the whole of England will soon be classed as tier 3, which will save time and effort in preparing all those pretty maps.
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Sunday 25 October 20 18:11 GMT (UK)
  Just heard that the Wales first minister is not backing down over supermarkets only selling food. Good for him!
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: roopat on Sunday 25 October 20 18:14 GMT (UK)
Yet again the reporter I saw said there was 'confusion' among the store owners  ::)  how is it confusing?  ??? 
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Llwyd on Sunday 25 October 20 19:30 GMT (UK)
But it's not just food which supermarkets are allowed to sell, they are still able to sell alcohol. I find it odd that you cannot buy a bottle for a baby or, say, a kettle if yours has gone bang, but you can, should you so wish, buy every bottle of booze on display.
Yes, it is mainly common sense, as Mr Drakeford says, but some definition is required because non-essential can be subjective. As for confusion, there always seems to be some across the border so why can we not have some in Wales?.
Anyway, we are now all walking around naked in Wales - Mr Drakeford says  clothes are non-essential. Roll on summer.
:)


Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BillyF on Sunday 25 October 20 19:58 GMT (UK)
But it's not just food which supermarkets are allowed to sell, they are still able to sell alcohol. I find it odd that you cannot buy a bottle for a baby or, say, a kettle if yours has gone bang, but you can, should you so wish, buy every bottle of booze on display
:)

My kettle has done just that today!! Never mind, we`ll just booze ourselves stupid for 16 days !!

(Shhhhhh!, don`t drink!!!!)
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 October 20 20:12 GMT (UK)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-54660888

 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Llwyd on Sunday 25 October 20 20:28 GMT (UK)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-54660888

 :-X :-X :-X

I was aware of the story. It was a "convenience" they could hire portaloos for use on the English side of the border.
 :)
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 October 20 21:02 GMT (UK)
Going to Chester was a great treat when I was little. The Rows always fascinated me. I also remember Browns - that was a posh shop in my day

 ;D
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 25 October 20 22:31 GMT (UK)
I'll agree with you on both those counts, Gadget.  A wonderful place!  Not to mention my birthplace!

Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Rena on Monday 26 October 20 01:17 GMT (UK)
I've just seen this headline in MSM news, about people trying to sneak in to Wales in the early hours of Friday morning !!

"Family from Sussex who travelled five hours to Wales in lockdown escorted back by police
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: Llwyd on Monday 26 October 20 13:44 GMT (UK)
Going to Chester was a great treat when I was little. The Rows always fascinated me. I also remember Browns - that was a posh shop in my day

 ;D

Me too. I still think the Rows are great - a unique feature; a good place to stop and people watch the streets below.
It's gone down the nick and a bit jaded these days with, would you believe, lots of empty shops. Browns was my mum's favourite shop "back in the day". People still call it Browns, except it ain't.
I don't go to Chester these days unless I have to. My dentist and favourite Italian eatery are there so I am able to combine to combine the two.
 :)

I've just seen this headline in MSM news, about people trying to sneak in to Wales in the early hours of Friday morning !!

"Family from Sussex who travelled five hours to Wales in lockdown escorted back by police

Not all the way I hope ............
 :)
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 27 October 20 09:34 GMT (UK)
Going to Chester was a great treat when I was little. The Rows always fascinated me. I also remember Browns - that was a posh shop in my day

 ;D

Yes, going into Browns of Chester was like walking into Harrods for us. The Rows were a fascinating place - yes! You could imagine a Sherlock Holmes story being set there. Very unique. I used to have my film and prints developed by mail order there, to "Will R. Rose".

Trystan
Title: Re: Wales to go into "firebreak"
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 27 October 20 16:51 GMT (UK)
Wall City Jazz Club in Chester was also a favourite visit.  I'm sure that is where I first saw Acker Bilk and Chris Barber.  That would be late 1950's/early 1960's when I was lodging in Runcorn - problem is I can't remember how we travelled to and from  :-[

Sorry I'm digressing even further from the original post  :-X