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Is anyone searching the MOORE families in Longfield West? I have noted the MOOREs in early records (1796, Tithe Applotment; Griffiths.
There are quite a few families in Ednashanlaght townland - noted in Find my Past records.
I have a DNA match with William MOORE & Sarah DAVIS (6 children in 1901 census) in nearby Bomackatall. Later a number of children settled in Paisley Scotland.
My James MOORE (born 1828; married Jane GIVINS in 1853 & came to Sydney Australia in 1856/7). Both James & Jane lived in Drumrawn; married Drumquin.
James' parents were James MOORE & Mary COULTER - both born about 1800 I guess, but dead - so James said - by 1856/7. James' obituary here in Sydney said he was born in Portadown????
In Griffiths in Drumrawn is Arthur MOORE.
I have found a Mary & William MOORE wh could be my James' siblings.
Does any of this ring bells with anyone???? I realise with limited records it is hard to link people/families up!!! Cheers Barbara
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
I have a DNA match with William MOORE & Sarah DAVIS (6 children in 1901 census) in nearby Bomackatall.
1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Bomackatall_Upper/1722635/
Last three children born in Scotland.
KG
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There are quite a few families in Ednashanlaght townland.........
In the 1901 census for Ednashanlaght, there are four Moore households.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01pz4/
Ednashanlaght townland NW of the village of Drumquin.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/west-omagh/west-longfield/ednashanlaght/
KG
Edited to add:
Likewise in 1911 census, four Moore households.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01pz5/
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My James MOORE (born 1828; married Jane GIVINS in 1853 & came to Sydney Australia in 1856/7). Both James & Jane lived in Drumrawn; married Drumquin.
Marriage on 17th May 1852 at Drumquin Meeting House.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1852/09438/5419137.pdf
Both residing in Drumrawn townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/west-omagh/longfield-east/drumrawn/
KG
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……..William MOORE & Sarah DAVIS (6 children in 1901 census) in nearby Bomackatall.
Just putting up some more links for others to peruse-
1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Bomackatall_Upper/1722635/
1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Bomackatall_Upper/852558/
Married 26 years, eight children born, eight still living
Marriage 28th January 1885 at Drumquin Presbyterian Meeting House.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10858/5964472.pdf
Bomackatall Upper townland in the Civil Parish of West Longfield.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/west-omagh/west-longfield/bomackatall-upper/
KG
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Thanks KG for your help & very useful links!!! Barbara
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Linking up information from various sites above -
Townlands all in Longfield West Tyrone -
(Find My Past) Pension application based on 1841 census - in Kilmore/Meencaragh
Andrew MOORE (b c 1800) and Catherine+ (married 1828)
children John 11 (c1830)
Robert 8 (c1833)
Mary Jane 1 (1840);
father -in law John SPROULE 84 (c 1757)
1901 census
House 10 Kirlish (Bomackatall) - western border of Kilmore
siblings
Andrew Moore 38 (c1858)
Mary Jane 39 (c1860)
John 35 (c1865)
nephew - Joseph GORDON 11 (still there in 1911)
1901 House 2 Bomackatall Upper
William MOORE (bc 1860) & Sarah (Davis) & 7 children (James, Robert & Thomas among them).
Witnesses at William & Sarah's wedding in 1885 - James & Thomas GORDON
William MOORE's father Thomas MOORE
Any MOOREs with GORDON or SPROULE family in Longfield West?
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1901 House 2 Bomackatall Upper
William MOORE (bc 1860) & Sarah (Davis) & 7 children (James, Robert & Thomas among them).
Emmm, see 1901 census link in reply #5.
Only 6 children and only Robert and Thomas (sons) listed.
KG
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nephew - Joseph GORDON 11 (still there in 1911)
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Kirlish/1722718/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Kirlish/852635/
Joseph born 26th January 1889 at Ratyn townland.
Mother Sarah Ann Gordon formerly Moore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02485/1922041.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/strabane-lower/ardstraw-strabane-lower-portion/ratyn/
Marriage on 17th October 1888 at Drumquin Presbyterian Meeting House.
Andrew Gordon to Sarah Ann Moore (of Kirlish).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10784/5932516.pdf
Fathers John Gordon and Aaron Moore, both farmers.
Death of Aaron Moore in 1885 at Kirlish. Informant was his daughter, Mary Jane Moore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06288/4801570.pdf
KG
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Death of Aaron Moore's widow Mary in 1895 aged 65 years at Kirlish. Informant was her son Andrew Moore.
#120
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05941/4687595.pdf
KG
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In Griffiths in Drumrawn is Arthur MOORE.
Death of Arthur Moore in 1882 in Drumrawn. The informant was his son-in-law Joseph Fyffe also residing in Drumrawn.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06413/4841870.pdf
Joseph Fyffe married Arthur Moore's daughter Rebecca on 13th October 1870. She was residing in Drumrawn.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11401/8186446.pdf
In 1901 census at Carony, Drumquin.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Drumquin/Carony/1742151/
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/west-omagh/longfield-east/carony/
KG
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Thanks again KG for your great help!
To recap - my James MOORE (2) born 1828 to James MOORE & Mary COULTER (born about 1800).
James (2) living in Drumrawn (Longfield East) when marries Jane GIVINS in 1852.
James (2) in Sydney Australia 1856 said both his parents were dead - hence not in Griffiths.
Sister ? - Mary MOORE born 1829 marries Thomas McGahey 1849 (living there) in Dromore. They move to Glasgow (7 children). After Thomas dies she married (Neil McDonald) 13 Feb 1882 Govan Glasgow - naming James MOORE & Mary COULTER as her parents.
My DNA match is with William MOORE (daughter Sarah b 1893) in Bomackatall Upper, Longfield West. Father Thomas MOORE.
LOTS of MOORE families there & surrounding townlands (Ednashaulaght, Meencarcagh, Kirlish, Kilmore) Prominent names - Andrew, Samuel, Robert - 'not particularly in Longfield East'.
Name 'James' not prominent -(sweeping statements I know - but an observation).
Both parishes have 'the usual' William, John, Mary, Eliza, etc.
Earlier records -
Tithe Applotment - James MOORE in Drumrawn 1829 & 1837
No MOOREs in Dromore, Drumragh, Clonfeacle, Aghaloo
1796 Flax Index - James MOORE in Agahloo, Ardstraw, Clogher, Clonfeacle, Donacavey
1782 Probate (PRONI) James MOORE from Drumarm (could this be Drumrawn later)?
Thomas MOORE in Urney
The search and linking names continues .................... thanks Barbara
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I don't know if this will be of any use?
I compiled a tree for an uncle of mine (not a blood uncle, he married a sister of my mum).
His great-grandfather, Joseph Knox, born about 1835, probably in the Drumquin area. (he died here in Scotland in 1908). Joseph married 3 times. The first time, to Ann McCrae at Langfield in 1856. She died at Barravey, Drumquin in 1873.
Joseph went on to marry Mary Ginn at Lower Langfield Presbyterian church in 1874 and she died 1890 in Wishaw, Scotland.
Joseph, glutton for punishment, married for the 3rd time at Glasgow, Scotland to Elizabeth Moore, they were married in 1899, she was the widow of Robert Campbell.
Elizabeth died in Wishaw, Scotland 17th February 1913 and is interred in common ground in Cambusnethan cemetery, Wishaw.
Her father's name was Robert Moore, I'm not too sure but I think her mother's name was Rebecca. I will have to look through some paperwork.
Ancestry threw up this link to the 1851 census but I doubt very much if it Elizabeth's family, have a look and see what you think, it may be useful at a later date.
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246701/007246701_00883.pdf
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Just checked, Elizabeth's parents were Andrew Moore, farm servant and Rebecca Simpson. Both were deceased by February 1909 when Elizabeth made a poor relief application as being the widow of Joseph Knox and states she went through a "form of marriage" with him 16 years previously. However, according to my records they were legally married by Declaration in front of the Sheriff Substitute on 29th April 1899 at Glasgow. (This was a sort of pre-registry office type of marriage in Scotland).
She also states in her poor relief claim that she is living with someone named John Knox and has had one child by him. She went on to have another later that year.
Her former husband, Robert Campbell, born Co Tyrone, died, she states, "in America" 10 years prior. She had 2 sons by him, both still living in Co Tyrone. (James born about 1869 and Alexander born about 1874).
Elizabeth must have been born around 1850 - 55.
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Thanks for information. Unable to find a connection at the moment............ but will keep details.
Barbara
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Just come across this thread, Barbara. My grandfather was Samuel Moore of Ednashanlaght, who married Mary Murphy of Archill. Am having problems tracing connections with other Moores in the area, as there are quite a few. Am pretty sure that Samuel is a brother of John Moore of Ednashanlaght, though without birth evidence. Samuel's father was William Moore. One William Moore appears in Tithe Applotments 1829 for Caroney (=Carony). This is basically Drumquin. Also appears (if the same person in the neighbouring townland of Drumnaforbe, along with William Nethery. Is he a relative of yours?
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
My grandfather was Samuel Moore of Ednashanlaght, who married Mary Murphy of Archill.
Marriage 3rd January 1861
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09619/5488487.pdf
Samuel's father, William Moore a farmer. Mary's father, Samuel Murphy a farmer.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/west-omagh/west-longfield/ednashanlaght/
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/strabane-lower/ardstraw-strabane-lower-portion/archill/
1901 census
Residents of a house 5 in Ednashanlaght (Bomackatall, Tyrone)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Ednashanlaght/1722682/
KG
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My grandfather was Samuel Moore of Ednashanlaght........
Death of Samuel Moore in 1910 at Ednashanlaght. The informant was his son Samuel Moore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05428/4517291.pdf
1911 census with Mary Moore as head of family.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Ednashanlaght/852584/
Death of Mary Moore in 1921. Maggie Moore, her daughter-in-law was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05104/4402407.pdf
KG
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Thanks for keeping the MOORE thread running................!
I have not been able to find a link from my James MOORE in Drumrawn (east of Drumquin) to the William MOORE in Drumnaforbe nearby.
DNA links me /James MOORE to William MOORE (& Sarah DAVIS) in House 2 Bomackatall in 1901 & 1911.
I think ALL the MOORE families in Ednashanlaght are related. When you draw up the townland in
c 1860 Griffiths - James & Hugh GORMLEY farm the eastern half & John, Samuel, Jane, John, Andrew, Hugh MOORE farm the western part. This backs onto land farmed by Charles, James & Samuel MOORE in Meencargagh townland.
These families & descendants found in 1901 & 1911 in Ednashanlaght, Bomackatall, Kirlish townlands.
If you look at the Pension Application records on Find My Past there are the following - who I think they descended from!
1841 - Andrew MOORE & Catherine SPROULE - married 1828 - children - John b 1830, Robert b 1833, Mary Jane b 1840; f-i-l John SPROULE b 1757 (Kilmore/Meencargagh). [Catherine MOORE in Tullyard townland in Griffiths].
1841 - Jn (Jane?) MOORE b 1797; husband Andrew (absent) b 1797, Christianne (absent) b 1817, James b1819, Elizabeth b 1825, William b 1820 (Meencargagh/Ednashanlaght)
1851 -Jane's family - James, John, William, Samuel, Andrew, Robert, Elizabeth, Margaret, Kitty
1841 - 51 - Samuel MOORE (Meencargagh) parents Samuel MOORE & Isabelle HAMILTON
1841/51 - Andrew MOORE - parents Hugh & Eliza MOORE (Ednashanlaght)
In Tithe Applotments 1837 as well as (my?) James MOORE in Drumrawn there are William MOOREs in Carony & Drumnaforbe.
in 1826 William MOORE & partners in Ednashanlaght.
Will we ever sort them out!?
Barbara
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The connections are certainly hard to identify with any certainty. However, I agree that the Moores of Ednashanlaght are definitely closely related - with the exception of Hugh. I say this partly because his acreage was much smaller than Andrew, Samuel and John, and partly because we don't find the presence of any of the others as witnesses in marriages of his children.
It would seem that Jane was mother to James, John, William, Samuel, Andrew, and Robert, and if it is she who died age 90 in 1865, she is just about old enough to be the mother of all of these - although we don't know year of birth of William or Robert or Samuel (both the latter of Meencargagh), and I suspect that at least the first two of these were born before 1800. Unfortunately I have not been able to trace any of the three daughters, though have a strong suspicion that Elizabeth married Samuel McFarland of Aghasessy (on evidence from a census search form).
I haven't found any direct relationships between the Ednashanlaght Moores and yours. However, I did find that Cassie Scott (a daughter of Samuel Moore, my great-grandfather) was a witness at the marriage of Sarah Moore (daughter of William Moore and Sarah Davis) and James Johnstone. This is not too surprising, as Catherine Scott married William Scott of Tullyard, a townland adjoining Bomacatall and Kirlish where Sarah and James lived.
I think the only way to get some more insight is by inspecting land records showing actual transfers of land, along with named individuals, but I am not hopeful of finding these. Regrettably, names of wives don't appear in such transactions, so their genealogical value would be rather limited.
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I am new to this chat, but hopefully with some helpful info. I have been tracking two families in Longfield West and Ardstraw parish next door, the Moore’s and the McKone/McKeon/McKown family. My link is through the marriage of John McKone to Isabella Moore, with fathers John and Robert respectively n the 1st Castlederg Presbyterian Church, 1853. They emigrated to Canada ca 1855, but I have great interest in their Irish roots. The marriage record centres them in the townlands of Meencargagh, next to Ednashanlaght, in Longfield West, and Coolnaherin across the Fairy Water in Ardstraw.
There are a number of Moore baptism records in the 1st Castlederg Presbyterian parish that have been transcribed and put on this site: https://cotyrone.com/births/1stCastledergBaptisms1823-1883.html
They include James Moore with a Roseann McKown with 3 children baptismal dates, and interesting notes about them going to Australia. Roseann was also known as Fanny. Go to the actual pictures in the book and you will see these notations.
There are a number of other Moore’s in there, including John, Hugh, Andrew and Samuel. Many are from Ednashanlaght, as already discussed in this chat.
There at least 3 marriages between these two families, Moores marrying various spellings of McKeon, and maybe more as they they often did not list the maiden name of the bride.
A bit later, 1878, are elders of this church listed: List of seatholders in the 1st Castlederg Presbyterian Church 1878/79.
From the Book "A short History of 1st Castlederg, Presbyterian Church by
R.S.K.Neill, 1993 printed by The Tyrone Constitution.
Robert MOORE
Hugh MOORE
Mrs John M'KEOWN
R. M'KEOWN (Meencaragh)
Samuel Moore Sr
Samuel M'KEOWN
Samuel MOORE Jr
Andrew MOORE
Charles MOORE
For me, at least, “home base” for the two families seems to be these townlands of Meencargagh, Ednashanlaght and Coolnaherin, (and, for Moore, perhaps also other Ardstraw townlands nearby, like Drumclamph, Archill, Cavandoragh, Letterbin, and even Kilstrule) where there were Moor or Moore entries in the Tithe records as well as Griffith’s. In fact, going back further, there is even a William Moor listed in the Hearth Tax records from 1666 in Kilstrule, which can be found on the County Tyrone website.
My guess is both of my two families, Moore and McKeon, were Plantation settlers, coming from Scotland and/or northern England originally., possibly as early as the 1600’s, but many came in the early 1700’s as well. This area looks to be part of the original plantation areas of Omagh and/or Strabane.
I have not been able to construct the exact family tree, but there are some helpful hints in this thread, and I thank you. The Tithe records for Longfield/Langfield West are from 1826, and there appears a “William Moor and Partners” in Ednashanlaght. He, and or brothers, appear to be a patriarch of sorts. The McKown/McKeon/McKone side is possibly of interest only to me, so I will leave that out. There are several listed for Meencargagh n the Tithe records.
Even more confusing can be the Presbyterian versus Methodist religions among these two families. In my case, all the emigrants to Canada opted for Methodist, and appear in censuses there from the get go as Methodist. Some of the Irish census from the early 1900’s shows some as Methodist, but most as Presbyterian. There are some pretty Methodist churches nearby, ne in Lisleen, and another near Castlederg. Apparently, Methodist and Presbyterian marriages were not uncommon, and the couple might visit both churches on their wedding day.
Barbara, I hope this doesn’t mess you up any more than the already confusing, but super-interesting posts that you all have contributed.
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I meant to add, I’m very much interested in any and all feedback n my post! Thank you.