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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: robert g shaw on Sunday 25 October 20 09:21 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Im not sure what this means, Thomas married "unknown" and produced an issue "tempest" , was Tempest an actual name or a word used to describe an illegitimate or unrecognised member of the family?
I can find no record of Tempest being used as a christian name, we are talking late 15th/early 16th century.
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I would think it a name.
Ancestry - England, Select births and Christenings shows 7 Tempests Born 1600 +/- 10 years.
There are more if you move forward 100 years.
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A quick Google search turns up:
Tempest
Feminine name
usage - rare.
https://www.behindthename.com/name/tempest
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The ones I refer to are male.
Family Search shows several Tempests too. :)
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Yes, It's a forename as well as a surname. Possibly a child named for an ancestor. I have two in one of my family trees.
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The ones I refer to are male.
Family Search shows several Tempests too. :)
I didnt find any on Family Search, but i had a location of Lancashire.
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Thank you everyone, thats clarified that.
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The two children in my tree were born in South Africa, but their grandmother Ann Tempest came from Yorkshire. Ann's husband was a Wesleyan Missionary, again from Yorkshire, who went out to SA in 1819.
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BumbleB - your people who went to South Africa; did they end up in Natal? My S. African daughter in law has 2 lines of Yorkshire ancestry. It seems there was a lot of emigration from there?
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TOTH - yes they did. My Missionary was Mayor of PMB for a number of years - James Archbell.
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D-in-law's home town, though her ancestors went out later, about 1860.
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I think that James was mayor at that time then, he died in 1866.
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Might the tree relate to "Tempest Shawe, bap 6 Jan 1596, father Thomas, Parish St Mary le Strand"?
Transcript only - doesn't indicate whether "son/daughter"
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Image on Ancestry = Tempest, daughter of Thomas.
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Might the tree relate to "Tempest Shawe, bap 6 Jan 1596, father Thomas, Parish St Mary le Strand"?
Transcript only - doesn't indicate whether "son/daughter"
Robert mentions Lancashire.
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I knew a young woman with the first name of "Tempest" in Lancashire, a few decades ago. It was a family name, she said at the time. It was also a surname I met a few times over there.
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I can just imagine a Lancashire mother at the door, calling ‘our Tempest, you’re tea’s ready!’ ;)
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I can remember a previous query some years ago about someone named Tempest.
This must have been a Tempest living close to the Lancs/Yorks Border. It sticks in my mind because just past Thornton in Craven, virtually on the border of the 2 counties -- is a pub named the Tempest Arms.
And no - I didn't frequent it -- just drove past it many times on the way from Lancs to Leeds.
I know this is a meaningless addition as regards the query - but I just went on Lancs OPC and input a christian name (any event) of 'Tempest' -- and there were 208 results.
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Free BMD England Wales. I tried Tempest as a surname 1837- 1900 and it gave me following -
Sorry, that search found 5724 matches and the maximum number that can be displayed is 3000.
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And as s a first name 1837-1900 and still going strong on Free BMD.
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Free BMD England Wales. I tried Tempest as a surname 1837- 1900 and it gave me following -
Sorry, that search found 5724 matches and the maximum number that can be displayed is 3000.
Ok its the first time ive come across the forename "Tempest", but my dates between the late 1400's and early 1500's.
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Might the tree relate to "Tempest Shawe, bap 6 Jan 1596, father Thomas, Parish St Mary le Strand"?
Transcript only - doesn't indicate whether "son/daughter"
Robert mentions Lancashire.
That name and date fits what im looking for, but you are correct, its lancashire.. Rivington/Heath Charnock areas, not London. Theres no mention of London in this pedigree tree.
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Lanopc has 208 tempests being baptised, married or buried between 1605 and 1913 in Lancs; almost all of them male. Seems most common in East Lancashire which is funny cause I've noticed one or two other weird names coming from the area.
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Bashlad -- I did mention the number of people named Tempest shown on LancsOPC in an earlier post - also the pub on the Lancs/Yorks border - and that is East Lancs/West Yorks border!
I do still wonder though, about it's origins in that area. It does seem strange that parents will think -- what shall we name the baby -- oh I know - what about Tempest!
Maybe it originally came from a surname way back - although it doesn't fit the normal criteria for the adoption of surnames back in the day.
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There was a fairly well off family called Tempest (hence the pub).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Tempest
Barlick being historically Yorkshire and now Lancs so they're in the right area as you say East Lancashire and West Yorkshire arguably being more their own hill region rather than plains Lancashire and Yorkshire proper.
Also early 1600s would be around the time Shakespeare published his play which seems a little coincidental. Unless someone can find a lot of Tempest as a forename earlier than the 1600s.
*I didn't see your post.
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Bashlad -- thank you SO much for the link - (it's made me forgive you for ignoring my post!!)
The history of the Tempest family is really interesting - I am surprised I have never heard of them before. Also (and I know this is off topic) -- the place mentioned in that Tempest history, named Bracewell and Brogden - seemingly in the Pendle area -- never, never heard of it!
Every day is a school day.
Thank you again for the link.
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The Pub mentioned - the "Tempest Arms" - used to be quite a handy stop for lunch, - in the "good old days".
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TY -- I have just looked at the Tempest Arms website -- looks like they are closing during this forthcoming lockdown.
I hadn't realised it was a 17th century building actually.