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Title: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Joyce C on Monday 26 October 20 16:23 GMT (UK)
Hello.

I'm helping out a friend with some research and am trying to find the details of the marriage between John Bolton & Mary Ann Green, 2nd quarter 1911 Chorley St Lawrence's.

John & Mary Ann emigrated to Australia but I haven't found when, Mary Ann bn abt 1866 Chorley, died 21st Dec 1925, Lithgow NSW.

It is who John Bolton was that is proving difficult to sort out, any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Bob
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: ColC on Monday 26 October 20 16:40 GMT (UK)
The marriage records for St Lawrence are on Ancestry but only to 1900

The is only two of that name in Chorley, Lancashire on the 1911 census (Family Search)

One is only 17 to other John Bolton 22   is with his family.

Colin
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 26 October 20 16:48 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann was living with her sister in 1911 - aged 45
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 26 October 20 16:51 GMT (UK)

I'm helping out a friend with some research and am trying to find the details of the marriage between John Bolton & Mary Ann Green, 2nd quarter 1911 Chorley St Lawrence's.


I couldn't see the marriage on line - census night 1911 was 2 April 1911

Mary Ann bn abt 1866 Chorley, died 21st Dec 1925, Lithgow NSW.

Is this Mary Ann GREEN bn 1866, single with her sister Elizabeth on 1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X493-75B

EDIT to add Mary A Green with her widowed mother & sisters 1901

Piece:   3935 Folio:   96 Page Number:   10
3 Water St Chorley
Elizabeth Green   65
Elizabeth Green   39
Mary A Green   35 Chorley, cotton weaver
Sarah Green   25
Fanny Green   12
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Joyce C on Monday 26 October 20 16:57 GMT (UK)
Yes age confirmed by her death in 1925 and gravestone in Lithgow (Died 21st Dec 1925 age 59 yrs, beloved wife of John).

Yes that is Mary Ann with her sister in 1911.
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 26 October 20 17:00 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann Green was baptised at St Laurence Chorley on 4 Jun 1865
Father:   Thomas Green, joiner Mother:   Elizabeth

To find out more about her husband John Bolton you would need to obtain the marriage cert. to find out his father's name occupation etc....

Have you found a death for John Bolton to confirm his age?

Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Joyce C on Monday 26 October 20 17:01 GMT (UK)
No I haven't found his death yet.
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 26 October 20 17:09 GMT (UK)
I wonder if this is them - no detail of their ages

Mr J Bolton
Mrs Bolton
Arrival Port:   Hobart
Arrival Date:   20 Apr 1912
Departure Port:   Auckland
Departure Date:   10 Apr 1912
Ship:   Mongolia
details from Tasmania, Australia, Passenger Arrivals, 1829-1957
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 26 October 20 17:15 GMT (UK)
This departure date would mean they left immediately after marriage if they married qtr 2 and she was still single on 2nd April (1911 census)

John Bolton engineer
Mrs Bolton

Departed 14.4.1911 from London to Fremantle aboard the Turakina
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 26 October 20 17:18 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann bn abt 1866 Chorley, died 21st Dec 1925, Lithgow NSW.

Do you have an address for Mary Ann?

There is this electoral entry

John Bolton
Electoral Date:   1930/1932
Electoral Place:   Lithgow, MacQuarie, New South Wales, Australia
Residence Address:   Hassan Walls Road, Lithgow
Occupation:   Ironworker
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Joyce C on Monday 26 October 20 19:13 GMT (UK)
I saw this entry but dismissed it, as far as I know John & Mary Ann settled in NSW most probably in the Lithgow area as this is where Mary Ann died.

When Mary Ann died in 1925 address is same as the 1930 electoral entry i.e Hassans Walls Rd, Lithgow.
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 26 October 20 21:05 GMT (UK)
So if the address & area are correct as per her death cert - why did you dismiss the 1930 entry?

If John was a similar birthyear as Mary and alive in 1930 - then you have a timescale from 1930 to around 1950 for a death for him which may give you more info
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: wivenhoe on Monday 26 October 20 21:30 GMT (UK)

Lithgow Mercury 26 Dec 1926 p6
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/224587773?
BOLTON. — In loving .memory of my dear sister and auntie, who departed
this life December 21st, 1925.......
Inserted by her loving sister, brother-in-law, nieces and nephew.

BOLTON. — In loving memory of my dear wife, who departed this life
December 21st 1925.....Inserted by her loving husband.

Lithgow Mercury 21 Sec 1927 p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/219667775?
BOLTON. — In loving memory of our dear sister who passed away 21 Dec 1925.......loving sister and brother-in-law Sarah and Bob
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 21:44 GMT (UK)
Did John die in 1939? This man had children

Sydney Daily Telegraph, 2 March 1939
DEATHS
BOLTON —March 1, 1939. at Wollongong District
Hospital, John Bolton, beloved father of Margaret
(Mrs. Wesley Bracewell), 25 Auburn-street Wollongong;
Leo and Harry, of Lancashire, England. In his 70th year.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/247546377

Illawarra Mercury, 3 March 1939
MR. JOHN BOLTON
Death at Wollongong Hospital
Mr. John Bolton, who passed away
!n Wollongong Hospital on Wednesday,
was an old ex-employee of the Hos
kins Iron & Steel Co., at Lithgow.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/133009234?

South Coast Times and Wollongong Argus, 3 March 1939
Late J Bolton
He retired when the firm left Lithgow but has resided in
Wollongong since with his married daughter Margaret Bracewell
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/142515368?
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 21:47 GMT (UK)
There is this electoral entry

John Bolton
Electoral Date:   1930/1932
Electoral Place:   Lithgow, MacQuarie, New South Wales, Australia
Residence Address:   Hassan Walls Road, Lithgow
Occupation:   Ironworker

1930 electoral register also has
Margaret Bracewell, Chorley, Hassans Walls road, Lithgow, home duties
Wesley Bracewell, Chorley, Hassans Walls road, Lithgow, labourer
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 21:54 GMT (UK)
Here he is in the free index to 1911, in Euxton, Chorley, Lancashire
John Bolton, 42, Widower
Children Harry, Leo, and Maggie
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49S-2R9

John Bolton, beloved father of Margaret
(Mrs. Wesley Bracewell), 25 Auburn-street Wollongong;
Leo and Harry, of Lancashire, England.
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 22:00 GMT (UK)
They were with his mum Elizabeth in 1911, according to free index

NSW BDM
Death, March 1939
BOLTON JOHN
Registration Number 1374/1939
Father JAMES
Mother ELIZABETH
District WOLLONGONG
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 22:06 GMT (UK)
Illawarra Mercury, 10 March 1939
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW SOUTH WALES. PROBATE JURISDICTION.
— In the Will of JOHN BOLTON late of Wollongong in the State of New South
Wales Ironworker Deceased. APPLICATION will be made after fourteen days
from the publication hereof that Probate of the last Will and Testament dated
the Thirteenth day of July One thousand nine hundred and thirty five of the
above named deceased may be granted to MARGARET BRACEWELL the Sole
Executrix in the said Will named.....
Here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/133006238?searchTerm=john%20bolton
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 22:21 GMT (UK)
Sydney Daily Telegraph, 2 March 1939
DEATHS

Followed by
FUNERALS
BOLTON.— The Friends of the late JOHN
BOLTON, of 25 Auburn Street, Wollongong,
are invited to attend his Funeral, to leave Par-
sons' Funeral Parlors, THIS (THURSDAY)
AFTERNOON, at 3 o'clock, for the Church of
England Cemetery, Wollongong.
H PARSONS,
Funeral Directors.

Wollongong City Council
Register of Burial Allotments
Church of England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJY-YV3B?i=278

John Bolton here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJY-YK2Y?i=346
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 22:33 GMT (UK)
To add to wivenhoe's finds
Lithgow Mercury, 21.12.1925
DEATH
BOLTON. — December 21, at her residence,
"Chor-ley," Hassan's Wall's Road, Lith-
gow
, Mary Ann, dearly beloved wife of
John Bolton. Aged 59,
At rest.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/219251172?
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 26 October 20 22:57 GMT (UK)
Could this be the first marriage of John?
8 Dec 1890 at Euxton
John Bolton, 21, Bachelor, Platelayer, father James Bolton
+
Alice Mason, 26
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6YFS-NNT?i=1508
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 26 October 20 23:28 GMT (UK)

Could this be the first marriage of John?
8 Dec 1890 at Euxton
John Bolton, 21, Bachelor, Platelayer, father James Bolton
+
Alice Mason, 26
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6YFS-NNT?i=1508

Firstly well done on all the excellent info you have found on John Bolton

I think you are correct Re: his marriage to Alice

BOLTON, HARRY  ARNOLD   mmn MASON
1891  J Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 556   

BOLTON, LEO   mmn MASON
1892  J Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 524   

BOLTON, MAGGIE   mmn MASON
1893  S Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 510   

John Bolton
Baptism 11 Apr 1869
Parish:   Euxton, Lancashire, England
Father:   James Bolton, plate layer Mother:   Elizabeth

Edit to add there are bpt at Euxton for
Harry, Leo & Maggie Bolton
father John, platelayer mother Alice

Added - 1901c Piece:   3932 Folio:   111 Page Number:   18
John Bolton   32 horseman on farm
Alice Bolton   45 goosnargh
Leo Bolton   9
Maggie Bolton   7
All others born Euxton

Possible death of Alice

Alice Bolton
Registration Year:   1896
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:   32
Registration District:   Chorley
Volume:   8e Page:   369



Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 27 October 20 06:36 GMT (UK)
Sep 1924 Fylde 8e 1768   
BRACEWELL Wesley
BOLTON Margaret

1901, Margaret: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GT-XKY
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49S-2RQ

1891, Wesley: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QYV2-4W2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9LB-LL6
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MR-T8R

Arrival, 1925: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=10155684&S=1

12675/1964 BRACEWELL Wesley parents WILLIAM and SARAH WOLLONGONG
BRACEWELL Wesley Death notice 7JAN1964 Death 78 late of Wollongong Illawarra Mercury 8JAN1964

202645/1988 BRACEWELL Margaret parents JOHN and ALICE
BRACEWELL Margaret Death notice 2OCT1988 Death 95 formerly of West Wollongong Illawarra Mercury 5OCT1988

Wollongong Memorial Gardens - Porte Cochere Wall Section D 86-87
BRACEWELL Wesley 7-1-1964
BRACEWELL Margaret  2-10-1988

Possible son:
BRACEWELL John Desmond (Jack) Death notice 8APR1996 Death 68 late of West Wollongong Illawarra Mercury 10APR1996

Wall of Memory 2 Section D 36
BRACEWELL John Desmond 8-4-1996

Death of Alice Bolton:

BOLTON, ALICE mmn 45 
GRO Reference: 1901  S Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 329

Jamjar
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 27 October 20 07:18 GMT (UK)
Further to reply#12....if you need to account for GREEN siblings  ie Sarah....


FreeBDM
SepQ 1903 Chorley Vol 8e page 976
GREEN Sarah    marr.     ROBINSON Robert Blackledge

Electoral Roll NSW 1930          (Ancestry)
ROBINSON Robert Blackledge               Hassans Walls Rd Lithgow
ROBINSON Sarah                                Hassans Walls Rd Lithgow

NSW BDM death
20990/1935 ROBINSON Sarah                  parents William / Elizabeth   @ Bulli
13073/1953 ROBINSON Robert Blachledge parents James / Elizabeth   @ Lismore

Northern Star 4 Jun 1953 p7
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/96503697?
The death occurred at his home at 12 Cathcart Street, Lismore, early yesterday morning
of Mr. Robert Blackledge ROBINSON, aged 77 years who had been residing there for the past
seven years with his daughter and son-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. Ernest ADAMS.

Mr. ROBINSON was born in Lancashire, England. He served with the British Imperial Army in World War I and shortly after the armistice made his home in Australia

In addition to Mrs ADAMS, a son, Mr. Arthur ROBINSON, lives at Wollongong, and a daughter, Mrs. T. BEVERIDGE  at Thirroul. .....burial at Bulli.
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 27 October 20 07:54 GMT (UK)
BOLTON, LEO mmn MASON
1892  J Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 524 

Married:

Dec 1918 Chorley 8e 841
BOLTON Leo   
RUTTER Ellen

Death:

BOLTON, LEO  62 
GRO Reference: 1954  J Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 10C  Page 45

Jamjar

Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 27 October 20 09:02 GMT (UK)
John and his family:

1841, his father James: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQLG-M3L

1851, his father James: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGRT-CND

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZP2-34M

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-PMH3

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:79HQ-JT2

1901, with grandson Harry: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GT-X63

I can’t see a marriage for his folks, but I think this may be it with the partners missing:

Dec 1863 Chorley 8e 582
BOLTON James
Dec 1863 Chorley 8e 583
ARNOLD Elizabeth

BOLTON, ALICE  JANE mmn ARNOTT 
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 408
Baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6YFS-V9S?i=1286
Death: BOLTON, ALICE  JANE  0 
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 319

BOLTON, ELIZABETH mmn ARNOLD 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 420
Baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6YFS-JZR?i=1288

BOLTON, JANE mmn ARNOLD 
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 395
Baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6YFS-GCV?i=1290

BOLTON, JOHN mmn ARNOLD 
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 445
Baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6YFS-DMF?i=1293

BOLTON, ALICE mmn ARNOLD 
GRO Reference: 1871  M Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 454
Baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6YFS-DVQ?i=1296

Jamjar
Title: Re: Marriage of John Bolton and Mary Ann Green 1911
Post by: Joyce C on Tuesday 27 October 20 14:50 GMT (UK)
A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT TAKEN IN FINDING ALL THIS INFORMATION.

My friend is currently working her way through it all and has asked me to pass on her thanks to you all also.

From the information here and what we had previously it all checks out.

Thank you

Bob