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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Skibird on Wednesday 28 October 20 11:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm trying to find out about Annie Bromley's parents, unfortunately without success.
She was born in 1902 and died in 1965, both in North Wales and married John Llewelyn Bromley in 1921. What is also confusing, is on her death certificate, it said she was AKA Roberts which we know nothing about.
Her maiden name was Williams, so we assume her mother was a Williams, but again, we have conflicting information about whether she was called Jane Williams or Catherine Jane Williams.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Beverley Neville
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Have you found Annie and her husband in the 1939 Register? We aren't allowed to post details but they appear to be living seperately and finding them might explain the AKA Roberts ref on her death cert
Kay
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She was born in 1902 and died in 1965, both in North Wales
So you are looking for Annie Williams - Bromley was her married name. Have amended subject header
You need to buy a copy of her 1921 marriage cert to see if she names a father. Williams is a very common surname and there are far too many of her name and age on the 1911 census to determine the right one
Marriages September qtr 1921
John L Bromley/Annie Williams Bangor 11b 803
You can order online here
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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Thanks for the information.
Funnily enough, I was going to try and order a birth certificate tomorrow as it should have her mother's details on it, but hadn't thought of a marriage certificate, as they usually just have witness details on them I think, but may give it a go if the birth certificate doesn't give us the information.
Thanks again
Bev
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Have you found Annie and her husband in the 1939 Register? We aren't allowed to post details but they appear to be living seperately and finding them might explain the AKA Roberts ref on her death cert
Kay
Yes, thanks. We think they separated but are not sure unfortunately.
Regards
Bev
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Have you found Annie and her husband in the 1939 Register? We aren't allowed to post details but they appear to be living seperately and finding them might explain the AKA Roberts ref on her death cert
Have you got her in free index for us?
Best I can come up with! :-\
Annie Wheeler (Bromley), born 1902
at 4 Middle Street, Bethesda U.D., Caernarvonshire
Oswald Roberts and 2 more people are on this record
Oswald born 1891 in free index.
I think maybe she is Annie Bernley on ancestry? Not sure what it says, and we aren't really allowed to comment.
may give it a go if the birth certificate doesn't give us the information.
But which birth cert?
Is this who you think Annie is in 1911 (free index)? :-\
Annie Williams, age 8, in Llandegai, Caernarvonshire, parents Thomas and Jane
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VV-9GD
Mother might be a Jones. Difficult to be sure! Thomas and Jane possibly still alive in 1939 and also in Bethesda U.D.
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Funnily enough, I was going to try and order a birth certificate tomorrow as it should have her mother's details on it, but hadn't thought of a marriage certificate, as they usually just have witness details on them I think
Your first step is to get the marriage certificate to find her father's name and occupation as well as her address at the time of marriage.
You need to buy a copy of her 1921 marriage cert to see if she names a father. Williams is a very common surname and there are far too many of her name and age on the 1911 census to determine the right one
Debra :)
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Her maiden name was Williams, so we assume her mother was a Williams, but again, we have conflicting information about whether she was called Jane Williams or Catherine Jane Williams.
Why do you think she was illegitimate?
Debra :)
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Why do you think she was illegitimate?
She might just think that Annie's mother was Mrs. Williams.
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Hi John & Debra,
Sorry, I don't seem to be able to reply individually.
We have no idea if she was illegitimate, the problem is, some of her grandchildren thought she was called Catherine, others Jane, nobody seems sure and we couldn't find anything that listed her children.
We know Williams was her maiden name as on the register of their wedding (Annie and John L Bromley's) it said it was.
Annie's children were
Osswald
Maisie (my Grandmother)
William
Ivy, who we know had a different father, but we don't know who he was.
Annie's parent's could be Jane and Thomas as you found, we just don't know for sure.
We have never come across the name Annie Wheeler (Bromley), which is interesting, could that be Williams just miss read by someone (I've seen a lot of if from marriage certificates).
Thanks again for you help.
Best regards
Bev