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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Leicestershire => England => Leicestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: dicko99 on Thursday 29 October 20 12:53 GMT (UK)
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I'm trying to find ant details about the above person, my 4 x great-grandfather.
I have him in the 1851 census as 58 years old, living in Staunton Harold. He lists his birth place as Througham.
Pretty sure he married Elizabeth Wardle in 1814 in Breedon on the Hill.
I've not managed to work out his parents so any baptism records would be good.
Thanks in advance,
Richard.
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Have you already discounted the 1790 birth & baptism on Family Search?
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Isn't Througham in Gloucestershire?
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Could it be "Thringstone" in Leicestershire?
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A tree on Ancestry has his birthplace as Thringstone and a marriage to Elizabeth Wardle
Snap Hanes ;D
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Snap
The 1851 census says Thringstone as birthplace.
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The tree shows his death as 31.8.1857 in Staffs - GRO shows age as 65
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Baptism of son John in 1825 mentions Thomas Dent of Thornton in the parish of Breedon mother Elizabeth the dtr of John & Ann Wordle
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Thanks everyone.
Thringstone looks better. Lots of trees on Ancestry with that but no one seems to list his parents...
Also some disagreement about his death. Either Jul 1862 in Ashby de la Zouch or 31/08/1857 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire.
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Only Thomas Dent death on GRO for Ashby for Sept qtr 1862
DENT, THOMAS Age 24
GRO Reference: 1862 Sept Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH UNION Volume 07A Page 53
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The Wednesbury death that you mention
DENT, THOMAS AGE 65
GRO Reference: 1857 Sept Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 393
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Thomas and Elizabeth had 5 children baptized Griffydam Wesleyan Methodist 1815-1825 (one entry, details already posted, identifies Thomas' wife as Elizabeth Wardle) . The register in which they are recorded has the number "11" written boldly on the cover. The second baptism recorded on page 1A of the register reads -
"Mary, the daughter of Francis and Sarah Dent in the Township of Worthington in the Parish of Breedon, in the County of Leicester, was born July the 13th 1795 and baptized the 20th day of March 1796".
If "11" indicates it is the 11th in a series, what happened to Nos 1-10?. Griffydam Weslyan Methodist is of significant historical importance.
(Note - although age didn't fit I was initially drawn to Thomas Dent, bap 1796, Diseworth, given its proximity to Breedon on the Hill, but found him and his twin Joseph in Loughborough in 1851).
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I can’t help with Thomas’s baptism but these were the children, all baptised at Griffydam Wesleyan, parents Thomas and Elizabeth:
1814 Fanny
1816 Mary
1819 Thomas
1821 Elizabeth
1823 another Elizabeth
1825 John
1831 Robert
The last 3 confirm Elizabeth’s maiden name as Wardle.
There was also Mary, in 1795, as Hanes teulu has already said, plus William in 1820,parents James and Phebe. They were also from Staunton Harold.
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I see that when Thomas married Elizabeth, his parish as given as Whitwick and Elizabeth's as Worthington. Witnesses were James Dent and Phoebe Mason.
There was a Thos Dent baptised in Whitwick on 10 June 1781, son of William and Sarah Dent.
James Dent married Phoebe Mason in Breedon in 1815.
There is also a will of Thomas Dent of whitwick, earthenware dealer, written in 1815; it mentions his children Thomas, Sarah and William. At least one of these children was under the age of 21 at the time. This Thomas's wife was Dinah; when she died in 1837, her son Thomas was administrator of her estate, but it says that he was a farmer in Whitwick (dated 1841).
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I can’t help with Thomas’s baptism but these were the children, all baptised at Griffydam Wesleyan, parents Thomas and Elizabeth:
1814 Fanny
1816 Mary
1819 Thomas
1821 Elizabeth
1823 another Elizabeth
1825 John
1831 Robert
The last 3 confirm Elizabeth’s maiden name as Wardle.
There was also Mary, in 1795, as Hanes teulu has already said, plus William in 1820,parents James and Phebe. They were also from Staunton Harold.
I have Harriet born circa 1828 too. Not found a baptism for her but she appears in the 1841 census with the rest of the family.
R.
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I see that when Thomas married Elizabeth, his parish as given as Whitwick and Elizabeth's as Worthington. Witnesses were James Dent and Phoebe Mason.
There was a Thos Dent baptised in Whitwick on 10 June 1781, son of William and Sarah Dent.
James Dent married Phoebe Mason in Breedon in 1815.
There is also a will of Thomas Dent of whitwick, earthenware dealer, written in 1815; it mentions his children Thomas, Sarah and William. At least one of these children was under the age of 21 at the time. This Thomas's wife was Dinah; when she died in 1837, her son Thomas was administrator of her estate, but it says that he was a farmer in Whitwick (dated 1841).
My Thomas Dent lists his occupation as Bailiff in 1841 and Colliery Bailiff in 1851...
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My Leicester Poor Law CD has the following, under the Quarter Sessions:
Easter session 1818 - Removal Order
Thomas Dent
Elizabeth Dent (Wife)
Fanny Dent 3 (Daughter)
Mary Dent 1 (Daughter)
The two parishes were Staunton Harold & Newbold Verdon
At the same session, and involving the same two parishes:
James Dent
Phoebe Dent (Wife)
Thomas 18m (Son)
John 1m (Son)
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Might be worth looking into the following, also on the quarter sessions CD, although its a bit tenuous:
Epiphany Session 1791 - Bastardy Order
Robert Dent - Father, Thringstone
William Dent - Bondsman, Thringstone
Mary Parsons - Singlewoman, Swannington
There is a baptism at Coleorton on 3 Apr 1791 - Thomas s/o Mary Parsons, Pauper
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My Leicester Poor Law CD has the following, under the Quarter Sessions:
Easter session 1818 - Removal Order
Thomas Dent
Elizabeth Dent (Wife)
Fanny Dent 3 (Daughter)
Mary Dent 1 (Daughter)
The two parishes were Staunton Harold & Newbold Verdon
At the same session, and involving the same two parishes:
James Dent
Phoebe Dent (Wife)
Thomas 18m (Son)
John 1m (Son)
Interesting. Are these the sessions where paupers got sent home to their birth villages because the place where they were currently living didn't want to support them?
Don't suppose there's any indication that James and Thomas are related?
R.
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Not necessarily their birth parish, just where they had settlement - which could be because that's where they served their apprenticeship etc.
There's no further details on the CD, and no indication that the settlement examinations have survived either, unfortunately.
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Mary Parsons may have been a popular lady (ahem!)
As well as the one Jomot has found, CD has the following under her name (perhaps not all the same woman! hopefully!)
03-May 1791 (Easter session) Mary Parsons of Swannington; Male, Robert Dent of Thringstone Order of Filiation
16-Jul 1793 ( Translation) Mary Parsons, Swannington Thomas Beresford of Coleorton Ex QS5/1/8
16-Jul 1793 (Translation) Mary Parsons, Swannington; Male, James Edwards of Coleorton Order of Filiation
29-Apr 1794 (Easter) Mary Parsons, Swannington James Edwards of Thringstone
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Mary Parsons may have been a popular lady (ahem!)
As well as the one Jomot has found, CD has the following under her name (perhaps not all the same woman! hopefully!)
03-May 1791 (Easter session) Mary Parsons of Swannington; Male, Robert Dent of Thringstone Order of Filiation
16-Jul 1793 ( Translation) Mary Parsons, Swannington Thomas Beresford of Coleorton Ex QS5/1/8
16-Jul 1793 (Translation) Mary Parsons, Swannington; Male, James Edwards of Coleorton Order of Filiation
29-Apr 1794 (Easter) Mary Parsons, Swannington James Edwards of Thringstone
Yes, I saw the James Edwards one and also noted a baptism 23 Jun 1793 at Whitwick, James Edwards s/o Mary Parsons.
Added: Forgot to say that I'd mentally ruled him out as being James Dent as Mary Parsons & James Edwards married in Whitwick in 1797.
James Dent is in John Street, Stoke on Trent in 1851, aged 60 and born 'Linkstone', Leicestershire. Could be an error for Thringstone?