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Title: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Sunday 01 November 20 21:10 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Following on from my previous post, I have another query which I have drawn a blank with.

I am trying to find the date of birth of my ancestor Ann Elizabeth Walker, she died in 1894, as Ann Mcartney in Halifax, her age was listed as 58, so giving a date of birth of 1836.

Ann or Annie was first married in 1852, to John STOCKS and listed her age as 21, so a date of birth of 1831.

Her second marriage was in 1879, to Henry Mcartney and her age was listed as 40, so a date of birth of 1839. on the 1881 census, she is list as 41, so a date of birth of 1841.

Her father is listed as being called William Walker, and was listed a deceased by 1879, and his occupation was given as Cloth Drawer in 1852, and later as Cloth Finisher.

I have not been able to find her on the 1851 or 1841 census, as yet, which would help.



Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 01 November 20 21:37 GMT (UK)
Where did the marriages take place, what addresses were given, how old were the grooms, and what names witnessed.

Pauline
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Sunday 01 November 20 22:09 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Both marriages where in Halifax, Grooms where listed above.

Witnesses on 1852 marriage where Saml Bates and John Thomas.

Witnesses on 1879 marriage where William and Eliza Hudson, who might have been the church minister.

On at least one census return Ann mentions Huddersfield, as her birthplace
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 01 November 20 22:12 GMT (UK)
1851 has an Anne Walker 20 born Huddersfield who is a servant living in Halifax.

What was her residence at time of marriage in 1852 or was it just "Halifax"
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Sunday 01 November 20 22:39 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately it was just Halifax.

Her Husband to be John Stocks was living with his parents in Clover Hill Farm, Skircoat.



Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 01 November 20 22:57 GMT (UK)
Other info has already been found here...https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=839597.msg7054759#msg7054759
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Monday 02 November 20 14:01 GMT (UK)
Hello,

That is my previous post for Ann Taylor, and I started another post for Ann Elizabeth Walker, two separate individuals,  unless they can be linked, hence why I posted to get a fresh pair of eyes to check.
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 02 November 20 14:32 GMT (UK)
But you've still left out information on your gal.

I asked for groom's age(s), not yet supplied.
you've not given each and every census (with companions) for her.
what's the full 1861?
What's the full 1871?
What's the full 1891?

Pauline
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Monday 02 November 20 15:12 GMT (UK)
1861 census

STOCK   John   Head   M   M   31   Cloth Finisher   YKS   Rutterick      
STOCK   Ann E   Wife   M   F   28      YKS   Huddersfield
STOCK   Martha H   Dau   -   F   7   Scholar   YKS   Skircoat      
STOCK   George   Son   -   M   4   Scholar   YKS   Skircoat      


1871 census

STOCKS   John   Head   M   M   44   Warehouse Man Wool   YKS   Halifax      
STOCKS   Ann   Wife   M   F   33      YKS   Huddersfield
STOCKS   George   Son   -   M   14   Worsted Twister   YKS   Halifax      
TAYLOR   Ann   Niece   -   F   14   Book Binder   LND      

1881 census

Henry Mc Artney   Head   Male   47   Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Anne Mc Artney   Wife   Female   41   Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
James Hy Mc Artney   Son   Male   21   Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Joseph Mc Artney   Son   Male   18   Halifax, Yorkshire, England
George Stocks   Boarder   Male   24   Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Agnes Stocks   Boarder   Female   20   Wright Isles Of, England

1891 census

Henry Macartney   Head   Male   55   England
Annie Macartney   Wife   Female   53   Yorkshire, England


   
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Monday 02 November 20 15:16 GMT (UK)
John Stocks is listed aged 22 in 1852, and Ann Elizabeth Walker (sic) is aged 21.

Henry Mcartney was listed aged 45 in 1879 when he married Annie, Annie was listed aged 40
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 02 November 20 15:34 GMT (UK)
I'm not quite convinced that the 1861 and 1871 are the same people.

The father's birthplace changes for Rasterick (sic) to Halifax, and the age difference change seems iffy too.

Births Sep 1856  Stocks    George        Halifax    9a   397    
Births Jun 1857  Stocks    George        Halifax    9a   422
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Monday 02 November 20 15:55 GMT (UK)
My Great x 2 Grandad, George Stocks was born in 1856, to John STOCKS and Anne Elizabeth STOCKS formerly WALKER.
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Monday 02 November 20 15:58 GMT (UK)
1851 Census Clover Hill Farm, Skircoat.

Household   Role   Sex   Age   Birthplace

George Stocks   Head   Male   55   Huddersfield, Yorkshire
Hannah Stocks   Wife   Female   57   Skircoat, Yorkshire
John Stocks   Son   Male   20   Raistrick, Yorkshire
Thomas Halliwell   Grand Son   Male   1   Skircoat, Yorkshire

John marries the following year.
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: hol on Monday 02 November 20 16:07 GMT (UK)
John Stocks born 25 July 1830 to George Stocks and Hannah Blakey.
Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Monday 02 November 20 16:43 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that.

Births Jun 1857  Stocks    George        Halifax    9a   422
According to the GRO online, this George's mother's maiden name is Hirst. My George was born the year before.

John STOCKS died in 1876, on his death cert his age is given as 45.

His daughter Martha Hannah predeceased him in 1866. Both are buried in St Paul's Halifax.

Title: Re: Birth of Ann Elizabeth Walker, Huddersfield, 1830's?
Post by: SnowyHog on Monday 02 November 20 16:45 GMT (UK)
John died on 13th March 1876, so was still 45, when he died.