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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: Washy on Tuesday 03 November 20 11:33 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone is it possible to search the 1851 census by address looking for bombers brew or brow Stockport. Looking for Thomas & Eliza Hogan married Oct 1850 both living at that address on marriage cert. Both born abt 1830. Eliza Ireland & Thomas Newcastle upon Tyne. Eliza Moran looking if any family names appear living there
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1851 references to give idea of area for Bombers Brow
H0107/2156 folio 644 page 14
Thomas & Sarah Fosbrook and others
also H0107/2156 folio 655 page 37. William & Elizabeth Buckley
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1851 Census
64 Tow Bar St, Stockport
James Gannon 53 Head Mar Pensioner born Ireland
Anne Gannon 46 Wife
Anne Gannon 11 Daug
Christopher Gannon 13 Son
John Moran 22 Son in Law
Catherine Moran 21 Daug
Mary Anne Moran 1 Granddaughter
Thomas Hogan 21 Stepson Mar Thrussle Jobber? born Newcastle Upon Tyne
Eliza Hogan 20 Daug in Law born Dublin, Ireland
Trish :)
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Seems to be Ann with children in 1841 in Manchester, Lancs;
Ann Hogan 35
Mary Hogan 15
Catherine Hogan 12
Thomas Hogan 10
Christopher Hogan 5
Ann Hogan 2
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Oh thank you so much everyone x
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Your welcome :)
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Do we know where Bombers Brow was/is? The “Brows” - locally known as “Brews” generally link the higher levels of the town centre with the Underbanks (originall the line of the Tin Brook) but I’ve never come across “Bombers”.
None of them seem to appear on the OS - https://maps.nls.uk/view/114581257
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Sorry don't know where it is just address on marriage cert. Could I please have more help, can't find John & Catherine on 1861 census. Have found marriage & Catherine is Ann's daughter Catherine Hogan. Trying to see if I can connect Eliza & John as have Eliza's father as Edward Moran labourer but don't have mothers name. Have two possibles an Elizabeth Mc Donnell or a Catherine? in Dublin church records.
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HO107/2156 folio 644 page 14
And if you go back to page 1, then you will see that "Bombers Brow" is also known as Crowther Street. Although Bombers appears to be written as Bumbers.
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Thank you Bumble B
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I gave you these census references earlier, you should be able to browse either side of them
1851 references to give idea of area for Bombers Brow
H0107/2156 folio 644 page 14
Thomas & Sarah Fosbrook and others
also H0107/2156 folio 655 page 37. William & Elizabeth Buckley
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Sorry rosie not sure how to do that
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You need to put the references into the census search box for 1851 on whichever subscription site you have access to. Alternatively search the names I gave you on the 1851.
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HO107/2156 folio 644 page 14
And if you go back to page 1, then you will see that "Bombers Brow" is also known as Crowther Street. Although Bombers appears to be written as Bumbers.
If it’s Crowther Street, ignore what I said previously it isn’t one of the Underbank ones; it’s further up hillgate.
Crowther Street is, in fact famous for featuring in one of L S Lowry’s paintings - https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/crowther-street-stockport-cheshire-89605
The buildings were demolished many years ago but have recently been rebuilt. Fortunately, there are a number of images of it, before and after demolition on the Stockport Image Archive here - http://old.stockport.gov.uk/sia
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Thank you will try that
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Hi Ray thank you for the info on Crowther st very interesting love the pictures
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Hi everyone is it possible to search the 1851 census by address looking for bombers brew or brow Stockport. Looking for Thomas & Eliza Hogan married Oct 1850 both living at that address on marriage cert. Both born abt 1830. Eliza Ireland & Thomas Newcastle upon Tyne. Eliza Moran looking if any family names appear living there
Hi Washy,
Thomas’s youngest sister Ann Hogan was my great great grandmother. The 1851 census has her and their brother Christopher mistakenly listed as Gannon, but they were John Hogan’s children. All other records for Ann such as her marriage and children’s christenings show her as Hogan, her marriage specifically lists John Hogan as father, not James Gannon. The 1841 census shows Ann Hogan “widow” (their mother) as the head and then lists the family, with James Gannon and others listed under as residents. I wonder if Ann the mother later actually married James Gannon as I cannot find a marriage record for them, or if he just happened to answer the door on census night and the census person made assumptions? I believe John Hogan died early 1841 but cannot narrow down which John Hogan death record is his. Do you have anything on this? Apparently my grandfather used to say that Ann Hogan (the mother) was a great Dublin lady who ran away with a redcoat (meaning John Hogan). Makes sense as apparently 40% of the British army was Irish during this period. I have no clue what Ann’s maiden name was but would love to find the Hogans’ origins in Ireland.
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I did notice a Tree that has a JOHN to John/Ann who was buried 25 Mar 1841 Liverpool age 0
(record is on Anc.)
I cant seem to find this on GRO, birth or death reg.
F/S has a non conformist christening for a John Hogan 17 Jan 1841 (birth 12 Jan 1841)
Father John Hogan/Mother's Name: Ann Keragan
Just posting in case it is related in the future.
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Thanks, probably my tree as I was working on it yesterday trying to find the father’s death. The priest had written Stockdale on the baby’s death but I presume that’s meant to be Stockport as I cannot find a place called Stockdale in the region so I added it in hoping it might trigger other hints. I had missed that christening, but it looks like this baby belongs to the family.
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Hi Amanda sorry not replied sooner but with Christmas &everything lol. Doing a little research for a friend & off the top of my head Ann Hogan was Ann Devlin. Son Thomas married Eliza Moran, daughter Mary Hogan married James Melling Kemp, daughter Eliza Jane Kemp married James Kelly. There is a group on Facebook you may be interested in which is Kelly/Kemp Family History Group. Will see what else I have tomorrow. All the best Valetta
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Ps think Thomas & Eliza marriage certificate on their which I believe says John Hogan soldier .
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Hope photo appears
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Hi Valetta,
That’s brilliant, thanks so much, that confirms my grandfather’s story. I had Ann as Devlin or Keragan, I have a copy of the John Hogan and Ann Devlin marriage record so thanks very much for confirming that!
Much appreciated,
Amanda