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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: bethanyyd96 on Tuesday 17 November 20 21:12 GMT (UK)
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Letitia was born in Islington England in 1860 and married Charles Lillystone. He died in 1897 and she immigrated to USA in 1905, stating she's going to live with her sister Alice Churchill. I have Letitia in 1905 census in Union New Jersey employed by the Rockwell family as the children's nurse. This is the last record I have and I can't find a death or another marriage record.
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Alice is working for the Rockwells also in 1905.
I don't see anything for either of them after 1905 in the US or UK. A hint at ancestry says Alice died in the 4th Qtr 1921 in Poplar Registration District, London. Vol 1c, page 527. Do you know if this is correct? Often the hints on ancestry are based on people's research which is not always reliable - they might have seen an Alice Churchill dying in the area and added it to their tree.
If that is Alice, could Letitia also have returned to the UK?
And in general, do you know what happened to Alice and the rest of the children? An obituary might mention Letitia and her whereabouts.
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1881 census - 21 Caledonia Street Islington
Amelia Churchill 60 widow
Letitia 24
George 21
Alice 13
Letitia marries Robert Lillystone widower (not Charles)19 October 1889 Islington father William Churchill
William Churchill married Amelia Lasden at St John Hackney 18 November 1849
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1871 census still at 21 Caledonia Street (transcribed as Charehill on ancestry)
Amelia Churchill 38 widowed (60 in 1881)
William 19
Letitia 14
George 12
Emma 6
Alice 3
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Thank you all for the replies.
Yes sorry she married Robert not Charles (that's his brother) my mistake.
I have all of her censuses in England up until 1901. I next find her in US in 1905 census. After that I have nothing.
I'm still researching their family, so as I go on I will give an update
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I don't know if it's the right Alice Churchill, but there is English/Welsh probate information for one who died 4 Apr. 1942 and lived in 541 Parker St., Newark, New Jersey. She was listed as a "spinster."
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This could be her, just looked at the 1905 census again, Alice is also listed at that same address, as oldohiohome wrote in an earlier post.
I misread Letitia's occupation there though. She's a cook and her sister Alice was the children's nurse. Alice stated to be a spinster, and Newark isn't far at all from where they were living in 1905, so this probate looks promising.
Thank you and I will look into this further
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I don't know if it's the right Alice Churchill, but there is English/Welsh probate information for one who died 4 Apr. 1942 and lived in 541 Parker St., Newark, New Jersey. She was listed as a "spinster."
Unfortunately that lady wasn't at that address in 1940:
A E Thums, 44, 1 year of college, a coal dealer, born in NY
Anna R Thums, wife, 46, born in Pennsylvania
Mary Stevens, 88, widowed, lodger, born in Canada
Florence Walling, 45, widowed, servant, born in New Jersey, parochial [?] nurse, with maid written in above it
they all lived elsewhere in Newark in 1935
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99M-94V9?i=6&wc=QZFM-2YL%3A790103901%2C792779101%2C797081501%2C797135801&cc=2000219
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Update: Robert and Letitia Lillystone had no children
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Whilst searching, found this marriage in Wyoming!
US Marriages
Letitia Lillystone age 48 marrying Henry Ulrich 11 Nov 1905 Thermopolis, Hot Springs, Wyoming
1920 immigration 1906
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNBV-2P9
Just looking 1910 to get a bit more background hopefully
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1910 in Fremont I think
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPJJ-81F
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Whilst searching, found this marriage in Wyoming!
US Marriages
Letitia Lillystone age 48 marrying Henry Ulrich 11 Nov 1905 Thermopolis, Hot Springs, Wyoming
Good work!
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1935 Henry Ulrich's death
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7D6X-RDPZ
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100993266/
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1940 Census Indian Lake Village, Hamilton County, NY
Jerry Savarie, 77, head, born in Canada (French), lived in same house in 1935
Alice Savarie, 72, born in England, lived in same house in 1935
Lettia Ulrich, sister in law, 84, widowed, lived in Thermopolis, Wyoming in 1935 (Hot Springs in next column)
extra information at bottom: Jerry spoke French as a child, is not a veteran, did not havd a social security number, and is physically unable to work
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ1X-2Y5
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1962: Alice Savarie's death, age 94
Indian Lake, NY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2M-FGZJ
findagrave with a picture:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52526021/
Probably Letitia Ulrich, death 1953, age 98 in Johnstown NY. not far from Indian Lake
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGDR-YC9W
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They are brilliant finds oldohiohome and what ages to live to!
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1962: Alice Savarie's death, age 94
Indian Lake, NY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2M-FGZJ
findagrave with a picture:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52526021/
Jerry Savarie 1946: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01q2f/
Alice Savarie 1962: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01q2e/
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some of this might be outdated by RJ137's post, but I had it typed up:
They are brilliant finds oldohiohome and what ages to live to!
I had given up on both of them. I thought they might have gone back to England. Hopefully someone will have access to Alice's death notice:
for Alice:
Post-Star from Glens Falls, New York
Friday, July 13, 1962
Page: 8
the OCR rendering:
service, for Mrs. Alice Churchill Savarl., widow of Jerry Bavaria,! will be conducted today t 10:30 a a.m., In the First Baptist Church, '? Indian Lake, The Rev. MarUnJ H.Ezard will officiate.
NY State Marriage Index
23 December 1905, Indian Lake, NY
Alice Churchill
Jerry Savarie
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61632&h=5144274&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=6061
NY Land Records, index to deeds, Hamilton County
Grantor: Jerry Savarie (will)
Grantee: Alice Cornelia Savarie (as executrix)
recorded: June 16, 1947
book: 85, page 274
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7K7X-CV3Z
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1935 Henry Ulrich's death
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7D6X-RDPZ
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100993266/
Casper Star-Tribune
Casper, Wyoming
Sunday, October 27, 1935
THERMOPOLIS
PIONEER DIES
Harry Ulrich Claimed at Age of 89
THERMOPOLIS, Wyo, Oct. 26. (JP) A resident of Thermopolis since shortly after Its establishment cn the present townsite in 1900. Harry (Hy) Ulrich, about 89 years old. is dead after a short illness. Born in Switzerland. Ulrich came to this country in 1869 and lived at Billings, Mont, before he moved here. He established a jewelry store here and was active in operating it until a short time ago. He was a member of various Masonic lodges. A widow, a son and a daughter survive. The funeral will be held here, probably tomorrow.
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Good finds, people! There is an article that mentions the Ulrich-Lillystone wedding. Apparently, they met on board the ship. Search for Lillystone after you enter the newspaper database here - https://newspapers.wyo.gov
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Here's Harry Ulrich on the passenger list, with a George Ulrich underneath him - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G1XS-D2F?i=743&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJFQH-B49
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Just seen these replies - this is amazing! ;D
Thank you to everyone who helped with the research!