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Title: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Thursday 19 November 20 23:44 GMT (UK)
Trying to locate a town or village in Staffordshire named Swillinggor, or Willinggor. Referred to in a 1730 Will of Joseph Withers who died in 1761.
He refers to "my good friend Isaac Pedlar Yoeman of Swillinggor, Staffordshire" (or Willinggor); to be his Overseer.
No mention of this place in modern Google maps; wondering if you might know of it?
Thank you
David
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: goldie61 on Friday 20 November 20 03:14 GMT (UK)
The first letter is a "W" - compare it to the first letters of 'John Withers of Birmingham' below.

Where did Joseph Withers live (die)? There's no clue in the clip you posted.

There's a Willenhall in Staffordshire? About 14 miles NW of Birmingham.
Said with a broad accent?  :)
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Friday 20 November 20 06:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you
Joseph lived worked and died in Birmingham.
1761. In fact his wife, son Joseph and daughter all died about same date, Oct 1761. Wife Katherine was described as a widow, she and her daughter died in Astley,? (Is there such a place?) Warwicks.
But Isaac Pedlar from Staffs.
Cheers
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: medpat on Friday 20 November 20 07:06 GMT (UK)
Astley is a village near Nuneaton and is in Warwickshire.
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Friday 20 November 20 07:29 GMT (UK)
Cheers
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Saturday 21 November 20 22:46 GMT (UK)
In examining this 1761 Will, I notice that Joseph's wife, Katherine: died 12 July 1761 at Anstey, Warwick, a widow (FamilySearch) and that his "my eldest son Joseph" also died 1 Aug 1761 (FamilySearch) as did Elizabeth Guest, his son Benjamin's wife, who died 13 Oct 1761 (FamilySearch).
Was 1761 a particularly bad year for typhus or cholera etc? Is it possible to detect cause of death from those records, at all?
Thanks
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Sunday 22 November 20 00:04 GMT (UK)
Here I am just checking the name of his wife. I think it is Katherine, what do you think?
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 22 November 20 00:34 GMT (UK)
Rachell?
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Sunday 22 November 20 03:53 GMT (UK)
Good for me. Thanks
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: goldie61 on Sunday 22 November 20 05:17 GMT (UK)
I'd agree it's 'Rachell'.

As to the cause of deaths, have you seen the actual register or are these just transcriptions from Familysearch?
Sometimes the burial register can give cause of death.

Are they at 'Astley' as in your first couple of posts, or at 'Anstey' as in your last post?
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Sunday 22 November 20 06:41 GMT (UK)
You're quite right the town is Anstey in Warwickshire.
No I have not yet gone back to check the images; I have relied only on the transcript.
I'll let you know how I get along.
Cheers
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 22 November 20 09:38 GMT (UK)
There is mention on various Google family research of the surname PEDLER of Willenhall, also being PEDLEY.

Ancestry

Find a Grave

Name: Isaac PEDLEY

Death Date: 11 October 1747

Burial of Cremation Place:   Willenhall, Metropolitan Borough of Wallsall, West Midlands.

(I think the Writer of the Will wrote Willenhall as it sounded (with the h)

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The Burial has also been transcribed on FreeREG
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 22 November 20 10:20 GMT (UK)
FreeREG

Marriage at Anstey, Warwickshire, St James

25 April 1715

Thomas WITHERS - Groom Parish: Anstey

Ann SAWBRIDGE - Bride Parish: Brinklow
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 22 November 20 10:28 GMT (UK)
Ancestry

Burial at Birmingham St Martin - 24 November 1756

Rachel - wife of Joseph WITHERS.
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Sunday 22 November 20 11:01 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Capetown for all of that.
I'll be busy tomorrow in prep for a family funeral. Should be able to get a look see on Tuesday. 
Thanks again
Title: Re: Swillinggor, or Willinggor, Staffordshire
Post by: Ratty2 on Tuesday 24 November 20 03:28 GMT (UK)
I checked the images of the burials at St Martins, Brm - no cause of death given.
It is clear from the large number of burials that something was going on - at least one and sometimes several burials the same day.
Epidemics were common then.