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Title: Marriage
Post by: mudmonster on Saturday 21 November 20 13:07 GMT (UK)
Hello does anyone have access to marriages in parish records please .I have the numbers 8a 77 for a Annice Kershaw x Arthur Frost just wondering if it will show Arthurs Dad (Stockport i think)
Thanks
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 21 November 20 13:14 GMT (UK)
From CheshireBMD
FROST   Arthur   
KERSHAW   Annice   
1930   Stockport,
St George   Stockport   
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 21 November 20 13:14 GMT (UK)
1930 might be a little too recent to be on-line, but the marriage did take place at St George, Stockport - from CheshireBMD.


Added:  Snap!!!

Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 21 November 20 13:20 GMT (UK)
Partial transcript on FamilySearch
8 Nov 1930
Arthur Frost, 27, father James Augustus Frost
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Annice Kershaw, father Granville Kershaw
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3G6-X7K
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 21 November 20 13:24 GMT (UK)
The full reference for that marriage is:

Year: 1930
Quarter: Oct/Nov/Dec
Registration District: Stockport
Volume: 8a
Page: 77

You need all of this information to apply for a Marriage Certificate.
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: mudmonster on Saturday 21 November 20 14:00 GMT (UK)
thanks to everyone that has replied,john w 65 I am obviously on the wrong Arthur Frost ,Thanks for everybodies help,back to the drawing board
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: MaureeninNY on Saturday 21 November 20 14:32 GMT (UK)
Which Arthur FROST are you looking for??

Maureen
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: mudmonster on Sunday 22 November 20 11:38 GMT (UK)
Hello Maureeninny,I was after Arthur Frost b 1896 in Stinsford Dorset,I know in 1942 he is still alive because his father left the probate/will to him
Thanks
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 22 November 20 14:07 GMT (UK)
I am confused?

If you have his father's will then you must know his father's name?

1901 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS4M-N1B

Father mamed as John W Frost, b c1856 in Essex.
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 22 November 20 15:08 GMT (UK)
So we need to find a marriage for an Arthur Frost with a father John William.

Where do you have Arthur in 1911 and 1939, could you please give details from both entries
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: mudmonster on Sunday 22 November 20 16:00 GMT (UK)
 Kgarrad I don't have the  will,I am only stating that Arthur Frost was something to do with the the probate of his father John in 1942 Just cannot find them(family) in 1911 cencus
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: mudmonster on Sunday 22 November 20 16:03 GMT (UK)
rosie99 ,I think John is with his daughter in 1939  Arthur no idea! in 1911 or 1939
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: Christine53 on Sunday 22 November 20 16:04 GMT (UK)
  Just cannot find them(family) in 1911 cencus

They are in Denbighshire :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7V6-341
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 22 November 20 17:07 GMT (UK)
You could get the will (only £1.50)
Seem to be school records for the Frost children, Rhuddlan National School, including Arthur, born 1896.
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 November 20 17:13 GMT (UK)
Assuming that the 1901 census is the correct entry:

Arthur Frost - birth registered Dorchester RD - September q 1896 - mmn = Dean

Winifred Frost - birth registered Dorchester RD - December q 1900 - mmn = Dean
Isabel Frost - birth registered Dorchester RD - December q 1900 - mmn = Dean

Marriage - June quarter 1888 - Farnham RD - John William Frost and Mary Dean appear on the same page.

Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 22 November 20 17:20 GMT (UK)
Several of the Frosts married at Rhuddlan, Arthur not among them.
There is a Frost birth registered in Dec 1939, St Asaph, mother Rogers.
Could that be connected? :-\
A marriage, is it worth investigating?
Sep 1936 Hawarden 11b 445
Frost, Arthur - spouse Rogers
Rogers, Dorothy J. - spouse Frost
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV8D-KT5W

LATE EDIT
At Bistre, Emmanuel
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 November 20 17:25 GMT (UK)
Image for the 1888 marriage is available on Ancestry:

9 June 1888 - St Michael the Archangel, Aldershot

John William Frost - full age, widower, Soldier 1st R Dragoons.  Father:  John, Labourer
Mary Dean - full age, spinster.  Father:  Benjamin, deceased.

Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 22 November 20 18:24 GMT (UK)
Wild speculation, a birth
Dec 1907  Hawarden 11b 208
Rogers, Dorothy Jane   
mother Jones

1911 free index, she is niece, age 3
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7J2-H42

Possible sister Elizabeth Annie, June 1910, Hawarden.
Is she the Elizabeth A Rogers who married John Iball in 1932, also at Bistre, Emmanuel?
Death, March 2004, Denbighshire North, Elizabeth Annie Iball, born 28 May 1910.

There is a death of a Dorothy Jane Frost, Sep qtr 1970, Stockport, born 2 Oct 1907
Haven't found her in the free index to 1939
Don't know of course if it is the same person.
Potential school records for Dorothy Rogers, b. 1907, Buckley/Bistre Infants? :-\ Would probably give date of birth.
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 22 November 20 18:31 GMT (UK)
Very annoying, Bistre marriages are on ancestry, but only to 1935!
They do include the other one
12 Nov 1932
John Glyn Iball
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Elizabeth Annie Rogers, 22, father Thomas John Rogers (dec), Collier

Witnessed by Dorothy Jane Rogers, who looks nailed on to be the 1936 bride.

Mudmonster will have noted the Arthur Frost in Stockport in 1939.
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: mudmonster on Sunday 22 November 20 18:50 GMT (UK)
Wow !!!!!! thanks very much obviously Ancestry  does not have these records as I have searched their pages.Thankyou to everyone, who has helped me,the other surprise was Mary ,John William's wife we had her  as dying in 1907!!!!

How is it there are more records on here.Is it because I only have premium Membership ,maybe need to go to full worldwide one.
Thankyou everyone again
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 22 November 20 19:37 GMT (UK)
Hi
I would check out the marriage in 1936 if you can.
I have indulged, as I said, in a bit of wild speculation, looking for a best case scenario. Some things fit better than others.
The Arthur I mentioned in 1939 seems to have died in Manchester in 1982, and I have no real way of knowing who he was. The probate record said your Arthur was a carter.
Getting hold of Arthur's full date of birth would be useful.
John

Edited to remove "wild", we don't speculate wildly on rootschat, do we!
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: mudmonster on Sunday 22 November 20 19:55 GMT (UK)
thanks I had tried that Arthur Frost in Stockport 1939 but the father was wrong on the marriage cert.But thanks very much I am amazed how much people have found .I might have to transfer to find my past as the records seem more up to date
Thanks again
By the way this is only a off shoot of my tree