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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Jang on Sunday 22 November 20 22:48 GMT (UK)
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According to the Dublin Daily Nation on 28 May 1900, Mary Laffan nee Kirby died on 12 May at Cloverfield, Limerick. She was the widow of Richard Laffan, JP, and daughter of the late P. M. Kirby, Controller H.M. Customs Department.
But I can't find her death in the Civil Records. I would have expected that all deaths were registered. Can anyone find it?
Jan
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I would have expected that all deaths were registered.
Jan
That is a highly inaccurate assumption.
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have you found Richard's death?
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have you found Richard's death?
In 1890 at Cloverfield.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1890/06101/4741287.pdf
KG
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There's an Arthur at Cloverfields in 1901 age 31, so 20 in 1890, wonder why wife did not inform. Cannot see Richard's death in papers, presumably there but it is hiding. Not going to help, just curious.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback. I did have Richard's death. Strangely enough, I've just found two entries for his probate:
8 October 1890
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Richard Laffan late of Cloverfield Pallasgrean County Limerick Esquire who died on 3 June 1890 at same place were granted at Limerick to Mary Laffan of Cloverfield the widow
23 April 1904
Administration of the estate of Richard Laffan late of Cloverfield County Limerick JP who died 3 June 1890 granted at Limerick to Arthur Laffan Esquite JP. (Former grant 8 October 1890)
chempat, I haven't found a death notice for Richard.
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Strangely enough, I've just found two entries for his probate:
It’s not uncommon for there to be second grants of probate. What has likely happened is that the first executor did not complete the task, either through illness or for other reasons (never got a round to it). That must have become apparent after her own death, so the probate court was then asked to appoint someone else to wind up the husband’s estate.
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Have you got an approximate age for her?
Do you know where she was buried?
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Death notice in Limerick Chronicle, 15th May 1900, gives her date of death as May 14th 1900. Funeral tomorrow for Inch St. Lawrence. Seems to have been the burial place for Laffan of Cloverfield.
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chempat, Mary was baptised on 26 Feb 1836 in St Michael's Limerick, the daughter of Patrick Kirby and Margaret Barry.
Jim, the specific death date should make it possible to find her death certficate, but no such luck!
Thanks Elwyn, I thought something like that must have been the case.
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If she died where it is said
Two pages of deaths in relevant registrar's district in June qtr 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05757/4626243.pdf
Couple of deaths at Inch St. Lawrence on second page
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05757/4626244.pdf
Some deaths seem to have been registered very late.
Only a page of deaths registered in the Sep quarter.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05749/4623655.pdf
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Thanks, so she should be 64 at death.
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Only a page of deaths registered in the Sep quarter.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05749/4623655.pdf
Note the first register number there is 239
Following on from the last death in Caherconlish in the June qtr, which was number 238 on the 25th June.
Nothing missing!
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Thanks, jonw65, I was just trying to work out how to look for all the deaths registered then.
The first page is really interesting - the Maurice Kirby who died in 1899 at Ballyhudane was Mary Laffan nee Kirby's uncle! He was the brother of her father Patrick Kirby, who died in 1847 and was one of the parties to her marriage settlement in 1855, another being her widowed mother, Margaret.
Perhaps with all the chaos over her uncle's death, someone forgot to register her death!