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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Dobie on Wednesday 02 December 20 13:03 GMT (UK)
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I've hit a brick wall and would welcome any help tips or info.
My difficulty is with Michael McNally who married Mary Cannon in 1904 St Maurs Rush Co Dublin. I can't find any birth records for him.
Marriage record shows his address as Chapolizod profession Plummer and his father is named Charles profession Sailor.
Family lore has him arriving to Rush from Scotland to work on a nearby hospital. This is backed up by his appearance in the 1901 Scottish Census, as a border occupation Plummer, born Ireland. Age given in both 1901 and 1911 census gives 1875 as the year of his birth. 1911 census he gives City of Dublin as place of birth.
I have searched for birth records and baptism's for a Michael McNally 1870-1876 but can find no match. However, I found a record for an unnamed McNally born May 14th 1875 in the Rotunda Hospital. The parents are listed as Joseph McNally, a sailor from Kingstown and Emily McNally formerly Doyle. Same details also listed in Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911.
Do you think its safe to assume the unnamed Rotunda McNally is Michael McNally? I'm thinking how many Sailors named McNally would have fathered a male child born in Dublin in 1875?
I'm trying to find a marriage record for either Joseph McNally or Charles McNally and an Emily Doyle which hopefully might shed some more light.
Michael had sons named Joseph and Charles so both names run through the family.
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Just posting the marriage andbirth for reference.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10199/5711574.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03103/2137960.pdf
Can you give a reference for the 1901 Scotland census, I can't see him.
Debra :D
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The 1901 census I found via ancestry so can't post a direct link put the details are:
Name: Michael Mcnally
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration District: Dennistoun
Civil Parish: Glasgow Springburn
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 29 Balgraybank St
Occupation: Masons's Lab
ED: 113
Household Schedule Number: 121
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1901_278
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I see that one, but he is a mason's labourer, not a plumber.
Debra :D
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Yes you're right sorry about that its plumber on the marriage cert. Honestly not surprised if he promoted himself.
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oh I should add that there is no record of him on the 1901 Irish Census.
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A load of coincidence ?
was he visiting his sister Louisa when he married
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/New_Kilmainham/Chapelizod/1269220/
Louisa was born 1878 to Charles McNally a bookkeeper and Mary Lynam
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02955/2082291.pdf
Louisa married Christopher Foy in 1903 naming her father Charles as a labourer
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10237/5725690.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/New_Kilmainham/New_Row/10082/
her parents marriage in Sandymount 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11254/8127304.pdf
he named one of his own daughters Louisa in 1911 born Capel St died there in 1932
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1932/04885/4322836.pdf
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Thanks very much for that
I'm thinking coincidence put then again I've no way of knowing. Theres no knowledge of him within the family other than him arriving in Rush Co Dublin early 1900's having worked in Scotland. I'm still drawn towards the birth record of the unknown McNally, father Joseph a sailor. The birth having taken place in Dublin North Union has me wondering if he was born in a Poor house and was perhaps illegitimate hence no marriage record for Joseph and Emily Doyle.
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The birth having taken place in Dublin North Union has me wondering if he was born in a Poor house and was perhaps illegitimate hence no marriage record for Joseph and Emily Doyle.
The birth registration clearly shows child was born at Rotunda Hospital not a 'poor house.'
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03103/2137960.pdf
Have you searched for possible parents in Scottish records?
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Thanks for the reply.
North Dublin Union is mentioned on the FML record as event place. Would that have been place baptised? I’ve no idea if female inmates gave birth in the poor house or were send to external hospitals.
I’ve searching through records I can find online in Scotland and the rest of the UK for a marriage record.
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'North Dublin Union' is the name of the registration district- click on link to birth (it's been posted twice on this thread) and look at top of the page. It's always best to look at the original rather than a transcription.
See here for information about North Dublin Workhouse (not poor house)-
www.workhouses.org.uk/DublinNorth/
There's no indication on the birth registration that there was any connection to Workhouse. Unfortunately hospital birth registrations don't always give full or accurate details- notice that none of the births on the page give Christian names for the babies.
One thing the registration does give is an address for the parents- 15 Patrick St., Kingstown.
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The Rotunda were very quick about registering births. You find entire sheets with every single child an 'unknown'.