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Title: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: Arvanitakis on Thursday 10 December 20 13:43 GMT (UK)
Dear all,

I am looking into an ancestor Rose Mocatta Wharton, born 18 November 1868 in Birkenhead, daughter of Thomas and Catherine Wharton. Her unusual middle name suggests some connection to the Mocatta family (Jewish bankers) but I cannot find any link so far.

Her father Thomas Wharton was born around 1841 in Liverpool and was a coal merchant, son of James Wharton, paver(?). Catherine was born Catherine Maxwell born in Ireland and the daughter of John Maxwell, Gardener.


If anyone has any ideas as to why she was given the middle name Mocatta I'd be very grateful!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 10 December 20 13:49 GMT (UK)
Middle names don't necessarily have to be family names. They can be given to honor someone who the family may (or may not) know - a prominent person in the community, an employer, a friend, neighbour ....

If Thomas Wharton was a coal merchant did he have any dealings with the Mocatta family?

Have you looked for your Whartons and Mocattas through the censuses to see if there is any obvious way their paths might have crossed? Occupations, addresses for example?
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 10 December 20 14:21 GMT (UK)
GRO Birth registration index has Rose Mocato Wharton.  Do you have any other records that show her middle name.
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: Arvanitakis on Thursday 10 December 20 14:30 GMT (UK)
Her baptism record has it written as Mocatta.

Yes I have searched censuses but cannot find any connection so far!
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 10 December 20 14:53 GMT (UK)
Perhaps the Mocattas helped him a lot with his business around that time.
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 10 December 20 21:23 GMT (UK)
Any clues in the names of the witnesses to her baptism?
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 11 December 20 08:40 GMT (UK)
Any clues in the names of the witnesses to her baptism?

Transcribed on both Ancestry and FindMyPast as Rose 'Inocatta' Wharton (it does look like that on the original)
There are no witnesses to the baptism at Holy Trinity Birkenhead
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: Arvanitakis on Friday 11 December 20 12:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks all,

Yes it's transcribed as Inocatta but if you compare the 'm's in the document it is actually Mocatta.

The nearest connection I can find is that the Whartons were living fairly close (Hamilton Terrace) to the Mocattas (Hamilton Square)...it just seemed a very odd choice of middle name unless there's more of a connection somewhere

I will keep looking! Thanks
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 11 December 20 17:19 GMT (UK)
2 female members of my paternal line were given the middles names of Bullock & McDonald.  Absolutely no connection to our FH so presumably close friends.


Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: EikcamA on Sunday 11 April 21 15:26 BST (UK)
I have George MOCATTA and Agnes MOCATTA née GUEST in Birkenhead. Married 1901. 3 daughters born 1905-1910. None of the daughters married. George was in wine trade. Related to architect of Brighton railway station - presumably to bankers too. George's father's family came from Chester. His mother is my relative - Georgiana MANNING.

What the connection is to yours - who knows, but perhaps this helps.
Title: Re: Mocatta family of Liverpool/Cheshire
Post by: EikcamA on Sunday 11 April 21 15:27 BST (UK)
Should add - I don't have any WHARTONs in my tree.