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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: Chrissyan on Saturday 19 December 20 15:53 GMT (UK)
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Hello again. This lovely photo is of my orphaned Grandfather with his brother & sister on the North Yorkshire Moors. I believe the mystery lady, is an aunt on their maternal side, however there were several. I am working on the theory that it is Hilda Schumm 1890 to 1956 and I have been sent a photo of Hilda in later life to compare.
I was wondering if any kind person could sharpen up the features of the lady on the moors, to help me compare them. Many thanks :)
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Thanks japeflakes :) Can I also ask your opinion on whether the lady in picture 2 could be the lady on the moors?
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Too hard for me to say. Sorry. Others will know better
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It could be.
I wonder if Tomkin or Peter could get more detail in her face with one of their AI filters :-\
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Looks like a different person; no bags beneath the eyes and a squarer jaw line, regards, John.
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In later life, people do acquire bags under their eyes :-X Also, note the high cheek bones.
I don't think we can really say yay or nay unless we get a more clear enhancement.
Gadget
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I agree with Gadget.
Carol
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Hi, Chrissyan. I’ve been AWOL from my workbench so I'm sorry to be so long putting this together.
I’ve tried sharpening the lady’s face a number of ways.
Be aware that all methods sharpen artificially, some more so than others.
Onto the original image below I’ve superimposed three different attempts plus the picture of your great-aunt.
For the first one I used the tools available in the normal program I use.
For the second one I used a tool called Gigapixel AI. In this instance it has exaggerated any lines in the very blurry original without employing a lot of artificial intelligence.
The third tool is called Remini. It appears to work a bit like a very sophisticated identikit. From a database it tries to find face parts that best match those in an original photo. Imagine a witness to a crime sees a grainy figure at night then a face is put together from various parts. So the image you see in my third attempt is definitely not the real thing.
Having said all that, looking at the shape of her head, her cheek lines, deep chin and so on, I think there is a good chance that the two women are the same at different ages.
Peter
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That's ever so good of you, Peter.
Given the various images that you've produced, I'd say that the shape of the face and the other features do suggest that it's the same woman :)
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The date for pic. 1 is about right.
It looks from around WW1 into the 20's making the lady in question
25-30.
The lady in this looks in her 50's.
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Wow, thank you all for your very valuable input :) Especially Japeflakes, Gadget, Hoobaloo, McGroger, I am very, very grateful. The jury is still out, however I am inclined to think it is is her (those cheekbones!) :)
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however I am inclined to think it is is her
That's called confirmation bias.
Does she look 25-30 to you?
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I think your 50 is being kind, Jim :)
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In later life, people do acquire bags under their eyes :-X Also, note the high cheek bones.
I think your 50 is being kind, Jim
Gadget
I agree wholeheartedly with both of these comments gadget :D
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The date for pic. 1 is about right.
It looks from around WW1 into the 20's making the lady in question
25-30.
The lady in this looks in her 50's.
That's called confirmation bias.
Does she look 25-30 to you?
Sorry jim1 I think I have mis-understood you if the lady on the moors with the children is Hilda, it would make her 27 when the photo was taken,do you think she is much older than that?
As for the older photo of who I do know is Hilda, I have just received it from a 2nd cousin once removed in Canada, who I contacted because we are a DNa match. :) I have no idea when it was taken.
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Much older than that.
50-60.
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I would say at least mid-60s. However, I look younger than her and I'm mid-70s :D
I'd say late 20s for the first pic.
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I think your 50 is being kind, Jim :)
I agree...if she was age 66 years old when she died, then this was most likely not long before she died.
Carol
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I missed her DofD, Carol :-[
but I did say mid-60s :)
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Yes you did Gadget...but if I hadn't known her Dod, I would have put her in her 70s.
Carol
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Yes you did Gadget...but if I hadn't known her Dod, I would have put her in her 70s.
Carol
I see she died in 1956. The photo of her looks very mind-1950s to me. I wonder why people seemed to age faster in those days than we have? I suppose it would be improvement in health and social conditions, no WW2 worries, etc. I do think that those of us born 1945-50 are the luckiest by far.