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Title: Family Precedence.
Post by: wrjones on Thursday 31 December 20 18:38 GMT (UK)
This is a question that combines Genealogy involved with the dilemnas facing quite a few people I'm sure given the current restrictions on relatives attending Funerals.Who would people say would take precedence a First Cousin or a Niece?

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 31 December 20 19:09 GMT (UK)
That is an interesting topic, I will wait and see what others make of this, unfortunately at the moment numbers are restricted, if I was the bereaved person the less people the better to have to talk to after the service when one has to make small talk  to people who I might not even know

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: wrjones on Thursday 31 December 20 19:22 GMT (UK)
I myself am leaning towards the First Cousin as they are of the same generation as the deceased.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Thursday 31 December 20 19:23 GMT (UK)
This is a question that combines Genealogy involved with the dilemnas facing quite a few people I'm sure given the current restrictions on relatives attending Funerals.Who would people say would take precedence a First Cousin or a Niece?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Neither. The person organising the funeral would decide, and it wouldn't be on a genealogical basis.
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: wrjones on Thursday 31 December 20 19:50 GMT (UK)
This is a question that combines Genealogy involved with the dilemnas facing quite a few people I'm sure given the current restrictions on relatives attending Funerals.Who would people say would take precedence a First Cousin or a Niece?

Regards
William Russell Jones.



Neither. The person organising the funeral would decide, and it wouldn't be on a genealogical basis.

My recent experience of this involved my Brother some six weeks ago now.However my sister-in-law reached the allotted 20 counting siblings,children and grandchildren.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: majm on Thursday 31 December 20 20:47 GMT (UK)
Hi,

In New South Wales, Australia, funeral directors have organised online access via zoom sessions.  This has allowed the older generation to attend remotely, while the younger set accompany the coffin.  At one stage in 2020 in our family,  we were restricted to 10 people at a funeral ... so the widow attended, the adult children attended and on the remaining seats there were floral tributes with cards highlighting the names of the people who sent them.  Funeral director organised close up vision of cards.  We knew we were represented here.    Funeral director staff were excellent, patient, kind and the widow has praised them.  The older generation who zoomed included deceaseds brothers and sisters.

So the widow, her children and some of the grandchildren attended,  and some of the grandchildren did not,  .... restricted numbers.  No one squabbled, everyone cared for the grieving widow.


JM
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 31 December 20 20:55 GMT (UK)
JM that sounds really nice,

LM
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 31 December 20 20:59 GMT (UK)
I watched a funeral remotely recently. I would not have been able to go in normal times, so this was actually a bonus!  Anyway, a group of us linked up by messenger and watched at the same time, tapping comments to each other throughout.  It turned into a really social affair!
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 31 December 20 21:21 GMT (UK)
We had a video invite to a funeral we wasn't allowed to go to as numbers were restricted, it was very warming to sit in our own home watching the service, sadly we had 5 funerals in all and  that was the only videoed one, the other 4 it feels as they have just disappeared , sad times

LM
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: Marmaduke 123 on Friday 01 January 21 14:09 GMT (UK)
I think it would depend on how close a person was to the deceased, rather than their actual relationship. In my case, I very rarely see or contact any of my first cousins, but feel close to some of my nieces, and my husband's nieces.
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: Jebber on Friday 01 January 21 16:38 GMT (UK)
There is no such thing as precedence in this instance, it would be entirely up to the bereaved widow/widower or next of kin, whoever is in charge of the arrangements to  invite who they want. Everyone else should respect their wishes.
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: Familysearch on Friday 01 January 21 17:02 GMT (UK)
Sadly, I have attended five funerals this year.  All of them have been via Zoom links.  Under normal circumstances I would have not been able to attend two of them due to distance.  One of the occasions had friends and relatives from USA and Australia. So it does have its advantages to have these new technologies, and may well be the way forward in the future.

My thought on the original question - it certainly depends on the person making the arrangements.  They will know who the deceased was closest to, and who would want to attend in person. No-one should feel they have a "right" to attend. That could mean that all the relatives are left out, and close friends included.

FS
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 02 January 21 20:54 GMT (UK)
At a burial in Scotland there are numbered cords for lowering the coffin, people selected for a cord are given a card by the undertaker with a wee plan of the coffin and the numbered positions of the cords. This honour is entirely decided by the family beforehand.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Family Precedence.
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 02 January 21 21:29 GMT (UK)
I'm sure it was bands and cords when I was up their, Skoosh. OH took one or other a few times. It tended to be clsoe family, then neighbours and friends.