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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Cad169 on Tuesday 05 January 21 16:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi All.
Wonder if someone could take a look at this. It’s the last two lines of the admission and discharge record from the St Pancras Workhouse Register. It looks as though my grandmother Florence Lilian Irons was admitted on 26/5/13 and discharged on 18/11/13. Gladys Irons would have been her baby sister but came in later and discharged earlier?
I would really like to know if anyone can decipher:
On the first page I cannot read the 6th column, ‘Condition’?
On the first page I cannot read the 7th column, ‘Calling’?
On the first page the 11th column ‘Name and address of parents, after Parents Fred and Eliza Irons, what are the abbreviations?
And on the first page 12th column ‘From whence admitted’, would 18 Piercefield Street and Park Hospital be one place, or two different addresses?
On the second page, what would C/O Mother mean?
Looks like something has been crossed out….can anyone read that?
Any help would be very much appreciated.
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c/o - 'care of'
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I thought that, but why would it be care of mother, if the mother is not there?
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It is the discharge that says c/o mother. What do you mean she is not there
On the first page I cannot read the 6th column, ‘Condition’?
On the first page I cannot read the 7th column, ‘Calling’?
.'Condition' - Legit (Legitimate)
Calling - Nil
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The crossed out bit against Lilian is Indl Sch Gt ?? - Industrial School Gt. ??
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On the first page the 11th column ‘Name and address of parents, after Parents Fred and Eliza Irons, what are the abbreviations?
S/A = same address
And on the first page 12th column ‘From whence admitted’, would 18 Piercefield Street and Park Hospital be one place, or two different addresses?
Piercefield Street is the address from which Florence was admitted. Gladys was admitted from Park Hospital. This was originally a fever hospital in Hither Green, which by this date was being used as a children’s hospital. https://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/hithergreen.html
Looks like something has been crossed out….can anyone read that?
Indl Sch (= Industrial School), Gt Percy St W.C. (= Great Percy Street)
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St Pancras creed register for Florence may say
Lloyd House Industl School
Lloyd St WC
with Gt Percy crossed out?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31436_190210-00438
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Also on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3N2-TV13
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Agree it is Lloyd House. Possibly the MAB Home referenced here ...
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MABMD/
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Thank you all so much for the help. This is really interesting.
Can anyone please confirm what does 'Legit' actually mean....in what context was Lillian, Legit?
Would Lilian be admitted to the workhouse in 1913, and be discharged straight to the Industrial school only six months later? Would she have stayed there full time? Looking at the article, it says that the schools may have ceased as a 'Mental Institution' in 1910. I do have memories of Lilian as she was my Grandmother, I never thought of her as having such problems, although there has always been a story of either her sister or an Aunt being admitted!
Also, it looks as though Gladys was only in the workhouse for one day!....would this have been normal?
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Hi
Legit means that her parents were married, she wasn't born illegitimate. It's the sort of thing workhouses liked to know.
Florence's case is interesting, she was in the workhouse some months before going to the "industrial school". I haven't found her in the records of St Pancras children at Lloyd House. Possibly no one else much either after mid 1913. So I don't know what is going on there at the moment.
If you have FamilySearch, there is an index of Pancras patients at Park Hospital. It says that Gladys was admitted 12 Feb 1913, then discharged 6 June. As we know, that was to the workhouse, and she was discharged to her mother next day.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3NL-VSN9-P
John