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Title: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 07 January 21 12:24 GMT (UK)
I am seeking any details about the children of John and Sarah Hoare; nee Burchett; who emigrated to Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.

1)   Jane Hoare born 1868 in Southwark Surrey married William James Elstone, she died 8 Aug 1949 in Woodstock.
2)   Emma Eliza Hoare born 1870 married Elijah Kendall in 1887, she died 20 Sep 1950 in Woodstock.
3)   John William Hoare born 1871 married Elisa Creates (in Canada?) – no more facts found to date.
4)   Alfred Henry Hoare born 1878 died 13 Nov 1964 in Woodstock, I have no other details for him.
5)   Also Elizabeth Hoare born 1871 – I have no more information about her.

I wish you all a safe happy year in 2021.

Muffin41
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 12:46 GMT (UK)
deleted - not positive that the Saskatchewan entry if you Alfred.  :-\

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 12:51 GMT (UK)
Canada Voters List  1949 shows Alfred Hoare with Elijah and Emma Kendall living 508 Mary Street Oxford Ontario - Alfred and Elijah are both retired.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 12:58 GMT (UK)
Canadian Attestation Papers for John William Hoare - born 8 December 1871 -

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=462390

digital file - 60 pages - https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B4396-S016
Gives wife Elisa Hoare. 14 Buller Street, Mile End, Montreal.
Occupation Pipe Covering.

Sandra

Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:02 GMT (UK)
Marriage 1894 - Hoar (as it was spelt)- John William spouse   Eliza Creates
Saint-Jude's Anglican Church (Montrél) - Centre d'archives de Montréal, CE601,S71

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:04 GMT (UK)
The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada 20 May 1938, Fri   Page 9

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/67094899/john-william-hoare-20-may-1938/

Doesn't mention any children.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 07 January 21 13:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your quick reply Sandra; you´re a treasure. 8)

Muffin
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Muffin,

Happy New Year to you.  Hope your keeping well.

FIND A GRAVE

John William Hoare -

Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108922568/john-william-hoare

Eliza Hoare - 21 June 1954

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108168201/eliza-hoare

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:22 GMT (UK)
This must be Elizabeth 1871  ???

Louisa Elizabeth Jane Hoare baptised 25 May 1870 married William Elstone.


1901 Woodstock Oxford Ontario

William Elstone   28 Bessie Elstone   28
Evelyn Elstone   8 Stanley Elstone   7
Lillian Elstone   5 Isabel Elstone   2
Harry Wills   24

1921 Woodstock Oxford Ontario

William J Elstone 52
Elizabeth Elstone 52
Isabel Elstone   23
Hubert Elstone   16
Joseph Elstone   5

Sandra

Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:24 GMT (UK)
Isabel Jane Elstone - 1899 - married Oxford Ontario - 15 March 1928 - aged 29 years.

Father William Elstone Mother Elizabeth Hoare - Spouse Ambrose Alfred Salter.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:27 GMT (UK)

FIND A GRAVE Isabel Jane Salter. 9 June 1898 - 3 June 1971

Woodlawn Cemetery Welland, Niagara Regional Municipality, Ontario.

husband - Ambrose Alfred Salter - 1891 - 1982
 
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200739253/ambrose-alfred-salter

plus 2 children - Betty Jane Salter Hargreaves (with photograph)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200739256/betty-jane-hargreaves

and William “Bill” Salter 1931 - 2001

Woodlawn Cemetery Welland, Niagara Regional Municipality, Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200739254/william-salter

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:30 GMT (UK)
British Columbia - Canada

Hubert Arthur Elstone - Birth Year abt 1905 - 15 June 1984 Kelowna. - Death Age 79 years. Single.

Death Certificate - http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/68cd1fd8-4e11-4925-bac8-0bd02f3b12f9

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:32 GMT (UK)
Joseph Vernon Elstone - 13 January 1917 Woodstock Ontario - 25 September 1943 London Middlesex Ontario - aged 26 years -
Father William James Elstone - Mother Bessie Elstone
Certificate Number 026796

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:34 GMT (UK)
Evelyn Susanna Elstone 1892 Woodstock Ontario - 30 March 1920 Oxford Ontario
Age:   28
Father William Elstone - Mother Bessie Hoare - Spouse Joseph Kendall

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 13:35 GMT (UK)
Evelyn Susanna Kendall.

The Windsor Star Windsor, Ontario, Canada 7 Jun 1983, Tue    Page 27

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/67095633/obituary-for-k-endall-evelyn-susan-nah/

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 14:15 GMT (UK)
Marriage - William Stanley Elstone - born 1893  - married - Woodstock Ontario  19 September 1917 Oxford Ontario -  Age 24
Father William James Elstone - Mother Bessie Hoare Elstone - Spouse Edith Mary Brooks.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 14:18 GMT (UK)
British Columbia Death - William Stanley Elstone - 1894 - died 24 December 1972 - aged 78 years.
Death Location   Peachland,  British Columbia.

Death Certificate - http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/c5c21325-7b2d-4149-9973-7c4b4b8552c3

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 14:22 GMT (UK)
Lilian Elizabeth Elstone 1896 - born Woodstock Ontario - aged 19 years -

Marriage Date 20 May 1915 Oxford, Ontario, Canada
Father William Elstone - Mother Elizabeth Hoare - Spouse Gerald Hugh Darcy Bryson.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 14:44 GMT (UK)
Emma Eliza Hoare born 1870 married Elijah Kendall in 1887, she died 20 Sep 1950 in Woodstock.

1911 Oxford Ontario

Edolp (Elijah) Kendall   47
Egneda (Emma) Kendall   41
Alfreds E Kendall 21
Frederick Kendall 19
Joseph Kendall   17
Chieslida (Christina) Kendall 14
Lily Kendall   11
Albert Kendall   6

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 14:45 GMT (UK)
1921 Oxford Ontario.

Elizabeth (Elijah) Kendall   58
Emma Kendall   54
Christine M Kendall 23
Lilian Kendall   21
Albert Kendall   17

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 14:47 GMT (UK)
Christina Mabel Kendall 1897 London England. married Percy Henry Smith Oxford Ontario 4 October 1922 - aged 25 years.
Father Eljah Kendall - Mother Emma Alice Hoare Kendall - Spouse Percy Henry Smith.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 14:56 GMT (UK)
There is a lovely ancestry tree with comprehensive Hoare family information and photographs.
It is always nice to put a name to a face.  Perhaps you could take a look and see what gaps it fills for you.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 07 January 21 15:08 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for your help Sandra, I will have a look on the Ancestry website and fill in the details on my family tree.

Muffin
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 15:16 GMT (UK)
Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid

HOARE, Alfred H.   Hillview United   Oxford   Woodstock   OX-79

KENDALL, Elijah   Hillview United   Oxford   Woodstock   OX-79
KENDALL, Emma   Hillview United   Oxford   Woodstock   OX-79

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 07 January 21 15:22 GMT (UK)
Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid


ELSTONE, William H.   Hillview United   Oxford   Woodstock   OX-79

ELSTONE, Elizabeth   Hillview United   Oxford   Woodstock   OX-79

ELSTONE, Sarah E.   Hillview United   Oxford   Woodstock   OX-79

ELSTONE, Stanley   Hillview United   Oxford   Woodstock   OX-79
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Shirley Sturdevant on Sunday 23 May 21 20:48 BST (UK)
Hi…I am new to RootsChat but have been researching the Kendall/Hoare family for 40+ years and have much to share in relation to your discussions below.  Is it best for you to ask questions about specific people or lines or certain time periods, or…?  My most recent finds are for Alfred Henry Hoare, affectionately known to us as Unkie and his mother Sarah Ann Burchett Hoare.  At the age of 23, Unkie was imprisoned in Wandsworth Prison in London, England for stealing food.  He was later placed on a Philanthropic farm called Redhill in Surrey and from their transported to Wawota, Saskatchewan to finish his 9-year term on a farm for boys there.  They finally released information for me about Sarah who was placed in an asylum for alcoholism and delirium in 1907. She died there in 1924.  Meanwhile, I believe I have found her husband who had left for Canada some time before.  He remarried in Stratford, Perth, Ontario and had another child.  Daughter Bessie arrived there shortly after this birth so I believe they must have stayed in touch.  I always wondered why a single woman would have been the first of this family to come alone to Canada.  I believe I have also found brother John Wm. Hoare through his Canadian Expeditionary Force Military file.  Lots more and hoping to learn from others. I am descended from Elijah and Emma Kendall.     Shirley
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Muffin41 on Monday 24 May 21 11:25 BST (UK)
Welcome to the Rootschat forum  :D :D
I have the following details which may help you in your researches.

Sarah Ann Hoare born Burchett was a patient at the Surrey County Lunatic Asylum Brookwood Woking Surrey in 1911 which confirms that say she was placed there in1907, she died there 30 Nov 1924.

William John Hoare was born 8 Dec 1871 in Newington, Surrey, between 1881 and 1894 he must have immigrated to Montreal where he married Elisa Creates at Saint-Jude's Anglican Church; exact date no known. He died 18 May 1938 at Montreal, General Hospital and was buried later at Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont.

William and Elisa had at least three children born between 1894 and 1900 – all born in Boston, Massachusetts, United States. ?????? - not sure where I found that :-\

Muffin41 :)

Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 12:08 BST (UK)
Slightly differenr version to that on reply 5

Obituary for John W Hoare -  - The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada
19 May 1938, Thu    Page 9

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78217996/john-w-hoare-19-may-1938/

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 12:30 BST (UK)

Esther Emily Hoare - daughter John W Hoare and Eliza Creates

The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada 7 Mar 2000, Tue    Page 49

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78218448/esther-emily-hoare-7-march-2000/

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 13:57 BST (UK)


The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada
21 Jun 1975, Sat    Page 54

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78220680/mabel-harrison-21-june-1975/

Sandra

Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 14:15 BST (UK)


Mabel E Harrison/Verrall - 21 October 2006 (daughter of Mabel Hoare Harrison)

The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada 21 Oct 2006, Sat    Page 56

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78221287/mabel-e-harrisonverrall-21-october/

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 14:26 BST (UK)
Herbert Roy Hoare - The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada
6 Sep 1941, Sat    Page 14

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78221704/herbert-roy-hoare-6-september-1941/

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LN3Z-94F

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108922567/herbert-roy-hoare

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 14:51 BST (UK)
Canada Passenger List - Liverpool to Montreal on the Dominion. May 1903.

John A Hoare 32 years - Eliza 31 years - John W Hoare 6 years - Ernest A Hoare 4 years - Henry E Hoare - O years - Mabel Hoare -

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 15:38 BST (UK)

Albert Harry Edward Hoare married Ada Alice Marsh - 1921 - Anglican St Alban - signatures included John W Hoare. Esther Hoare. Mabel Hoare.

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 15:47 BST (UK)



The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada 8 Feb 1986, Sat    Page 63

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78225365/obituary-for-harry-hoare/

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 15:54 BST (UK)

According to ancestry tree - ??

Fred Hoare (husband of Hazel Hoare - daughter of Harry and Ada Marsh Hoare)

The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada
6 Jan 2018, Sat    Page P32

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78225485/obituary-for-fred-hoare-aged-93/

Hazel Hoare - https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?n=hazel-hoare&pid=144339926

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Muffin41 on Monday 24 May 21 16:08 BST (UK)
Many thanks once again Sandra for your replies, I had no idea of the new details as I have not searched the Hoare family in Canada for a while.


Muffin41 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 16:13 BST (UK)


Hope it helps.

Sandra  :)
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Shirley Sturdevant on Monday 24 May 21 16:39 BST (UK)
Thank you for your quick reply and attachment.  I have actual documents from the Surrey archives for both Sarah's stay at the asylum and burial information.  Information about Alfred and others can be found on my Ancestry public tree.  I am descended from Elijah and Emma's daughter Christina. Do you know when and under what circumstances John William Hoare came to Canada?  I have not yet found him on any passenger list.  Shirley
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 24 May 21 16:56 BST (UK)
The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada
8 Mar 1979, Thu   Page 44

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78229301/ada-hoare-in-loving-memory-8-march/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78229446/ada-hoare-in-loving-memory-8-march/

Sandra
Title: Re: My Hoare family in Oxford, Ontario, Canada after 1890.
Post by: Shirley Sturdevant on Monday 24 May 21 19:05 BST (UK)
John William Hoare military file with Canadian Expeditionary Force is available on Ancestry.  It is in my public Ancestry tree Sturdevant Van Horne. Shirley