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Title: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: the oracle on Wednesday 13 January 21 14:36 GMT (UK)
Hi can any one find William Sampson  born 1789 in Cambridgeshire Royston in the 1861 census
I have him in the 1841and1851 livening Waterloo house Orchard Place Kingsland  thanks sue
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: johnhood on Wednesday 13 January 21 14:50 GMT (UK)
Could you please give the 1851 census ref,
John

found him!!
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 13 January 21 14:56 GMT (UK)
possibly HO107/1537 folio 396 pg 1. He's 60 b. Royston and a rope and mat maker.
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: the oracle on Wednesday 13 January 21 16:41 GMT (UK)
possibly HO107/1537 folio 396 pg 1. He's 60 b. Royston and a rope and mat maker.

Hi yes that him in 1851 am looking for him in 1861 as he died in1869
He should have a daughter ann maria sampson born 1837  shoreditch   thanks you
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: johnhood on Wednesday 13 January 21 19:48 GMT (UK)
As a matter of interest in the 1841 census for William & Family there is a son Joshua born c 1826 +/-

Did he go on to marry Mary Ann Tigwill in 1850. My reason for asking is if that is him he names his father as Thomas??

John
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: the oracle on Wednesday 13 January 21 21:15 GMT (UK)
As a matter of interest in the 1841 census for William & Family there is a son Joshua born c 1826 +/-

Did he go on to marry Mary Ann Tigwill in 1850. My reason for asking is if that is him he names his father as Thomas??

John
Hi John  yes I know Thomas was Joshua father but he died in1835 and his wife married William Sampson  had a daughter Ann Maria
Am looking for them both as when she got married in 1866 she was still at 2kinglands road which I think is near waterlo house
Had ordered will death certificate as he died 1869 if you find them that would be great  I am alway looking for any thing for 1831 or later to find Elizabeth family her Malden name was smith  thanks again
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 13 January 21 21:16 GMT (UK)
Ann Maria was still living in Kingsland Road when she married in 1866.  A fair bit of the 1861 census has been lost and Haggerstone West is amongst those missing.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098279
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098282
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098280

Debra  :)
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: the oracle on Wednesday 13 January 21 21:27 GMT (UK)
Ann Maria was still living in Kingsland Road when she married in 1866.  A fair bit of the 1861 census has been lost and Haggerstone West is amongst those missing.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098279
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098282
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098280

Debra  :)
Ann Maria was still living in Kingsland Road when she married in 1866.  A fair bit of the 1861 census has been lost and Haggerstone West is amongst those missing.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098279
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098282
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098280

Debra  :)

Thanks you do you know if any records on the 1831 or before that
As am looking for Elizabeth smith who was Sampson on the census 
Thanks sue
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: johnhood on Wednesday 13 January 21 22:33 GMT (UK)
Just wanting your confirmation re Joshua c 1826.
1. He married Mary Ann Tigwill  Yes/No  Father recorded as Thomas.
2 Thomas his birth father died 1835 Yes/No, and his wife Elizabeth then marries William Sampson Yes/No
3. William & Elizabeth have a daughter Ann Maria c1837/38 born Shoreditch, as per 1841/1851 census.

Sorry if it sounds a bit formal,

John
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: the oracle on Wednesday 13 January 21 22:42 GMT (UK)
Just wanting your confirmation re Joshua c 1826.
1. He married Mary Ann Tigwill  Yes/No  Father recorded as Thomas.
2 Thomas his birth father died 1835 Yes/No, and his wife Elizabeth then marries William Sampson Yes/No
3. William & Elizabeth have a daughter Ann Maria c1837/38 born Shoreditch, as per 1841/1851 census.

Sorry if it sounds a bit formal,
                   Hi john yes he married Mary ann tigwill  his father was Thomas
Yes to the next Question
Yes William and Elizabeth had a daughter ann maria she was born 1837  she was my great Grandmother
                   Thanks sue
John
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 14 January 21 01:18 GMT (UK)
Of possible interest:

"SECOND COURT
(Before Mr. PAYNE.)
   Samuel Giles, 33, was indicted for stealing the sum of
11s. 6d., the moneys of William Sampson, and for fraudu-
lently obtaining 20 brushes from George Henry Sharplin.
   The prisoner delivered goods to Mr. Sampson, in the
Kingsland-road, which came to 8s. 6d. Mr. Sampson gave
him a sovereign, and he went to get change, but did not
return, and the charge was that of stealing the difference
between the sovereign and price of the goods.
   It was suggested that it could not be a felony, as the
prosecuter gave the prisoner the sovereign to change, but
   The jury found the prisoner Guilty and he was sentenced
to six months' hard labour.

   Saturday,  May 24, 1862, The Times
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: the oracle on Thursday 14 January 21 13:26 GMT (UK)
Of possible interest:

"SECOND COURT
(Before Mr. PAYNE.)
   Samuel Giles, 33, was indicted for stealing the sum of
11s. 6d., the moneys of William Sampson, and for fraudu-
lently obtaining 20 brushes from George Henry Sharplin.
   The prisoner delivered goods to Mr. Sampson, in the
Kingsland-road, which came to 8s. 6d. Mr. Sampson gave
him a sovereign, and he went to get change, but did not
return, and the charge was that of stealing the difference
between the sovereign and price of the goods.
   It was suggested that it could not be a felony, as the
prosecuter gave the prisoner the sovereign to change, but
   The jury found the prisoner Guilty and he was sentenced
to six months' hard labour.

   Saturday,  May 24, 1862, The Times

                  Thank you for that  if you find any thing let me
Title: Re: 1861 census for William sampson
Post by: the oracle on Thursday 14 January 21 17:37 GMT (UK)
Just wanting your confirmation re Joshua c 1826.
1. He married Mary Ann Tigwill  Yes/No  Father recorded as Thomas.
2 Thomas his birth father died 1835 Yes/No, and his wife Elizabeth then marries William Sampson Yes/No
3. William & Elizabeth have a daughter Ann Maria c1837/38 born Shoreditch, as per 1841/1851 census.

Sorry if it sounds a bit formal,
                   Hi john yes he married Mary ann tigwill  his father was Thomas
Yes to the next Question
Yes William and Elizabeth had a daughter ann maria she was born 1837  she was my great Grandmother
                   Thanks sue

 Hi John
Did that help you yesterday ??
      Thanks sue