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Title: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: NoughtyDoughty85 on Tuesday 19 January 21 16:53 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone

So I am having difficulty tracing my 2nd great granduncle (also his father my 3rd g grandfather - already a thread on roots chat - https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=760724.0 - Ive made significant progress with some of his nefarious character but never located him  ancestry story - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/162972028/person/422118981262/facts).

Anyway William Blyth was born 10th Feb 1857, Green Lane, Flixton, his father John Truswell Doughty listed as a warehouse man and his mother Annie Robson Doughty. In 1861 census he is listed as William Blyth Doughty as living with my 4th g grandfather William Doughty and aunt Selina in St John's Yoirkshire (Langold). Then he vanishes. No one can find a trace of him and he would be 14 by the 1871 census.

With his father JTD vanishing, im thinking its possible he vanished with his father but Ive never found any trace of William Blyth on further census records at all with the family. My 2nd great grandfather - William's brother was born a year after William. Of course, its possible he passed but I cant be sure.

Could anyone lend a fresh pair of eyes please. Tysm x
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 19 January 21 21:36 GMT (UK)
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In 1861 census he is listed as William Blyth Doughty as living with my 4th g grandfather William Doughty and aunt Selina in St John's Yoirkshire

Birthplace Manchester on that census?  And living Nottinghamshire? 

Or have I the wrong census  :-[  William and Selina are on it. 
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 22 January 21 10:16 GMT (UK)
I take it this is William's birth record?

DOUGHTY, WILLIAM  BLYTH     BLYTH 
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL  Volume 08C  Page 462

I think you have the right census record Milliepede - living at Langold, St Johns, Worksop, Yorkshire

Why Yorkshire I have no idea, I always thought Worksop was Nottinghamshire.

Anyway William and Selina, father and daughter and at the bottom of the list is William B Doughty grandson born Manchester.

Registration district   Worksop
Enumeration district   7 C
Archive reference   RG09
Piece number   2420
Folio   101
Page   15

Added - William's parents, John & Annie, married in 1851 Sunderland
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 22 January 21 10:24 GMT (UK)
I think I have found William in 1871 - living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding)

Employed as a gardener and the image gives birthplace as Manchester.  Surname spelt Doughtey.

Registration district   Sheffield
Archive reference   RG10
Piece number   4700
Folio   5
Page   6
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 22 January 21 10:45 GMT (UK)
Brother George

DOUGHTY, GEORGE  HAWSON     BLYTH 
GRO Reference: 1859  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 545

Sister Adeline

DOUGHTY, ADELINE       BLYTH 
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 350

These two are on the 1861 census with their mother Annie living at Hendon Road, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham.  Annie states that she is married.

Registration district   Sunderland
Enumeration district   10
Archive reference   RG09
Piece number   3773
Folio   86
Page   15
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: lancsann on Friday 22 January 21 15:21 GMT (UK)
Langold appears to be part of Letwell which is on the boundary of Yorkshire & Nottinghamshire. The parish of St John is actually in S Yorkshire. Hence both York & Notts on the census
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: NoughtyDoughty85 on Tuesday 26 January 21 18:58 GMT (UK)
Youre all on the right track. Sorry its taken so long to reply. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: NoughtyDoughty85 on Tuesday 26 January 21 18:58 GMT (UK)
I think I have found William in 1871 - living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding)

Employed as a gardener and the image gives birthplace as Manchester.  Surname spelt Doughtey.

Registration district   Sheffield
Archive reference   RG10
Piece number   4700
Folio   5

How did you find that!!!! Wow! Im off to check that out! Tysm.
Page   6
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: NoughtyDoughty85 on Tuesday 26 January 21 19:08 GMT (UK)
Actually come to think of it,Ive come across the 1871 census before but dismissed because of the age difference
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 26 January 21 19:41 GMT (UK)
I wouldn't be overly concerned about a slight difference in age.  People weren't always truthful about their age on census records.

My great grandmother knocked ten years off her age when she married great grandfather as he was younger than her.
Title: Re: Blyth Doughty Help needed
Post by: NoughtyDoughty85 on Wednesday 27 January 21 09:29 GMT (UK)
Haha thanks I should know better, ive been doing this long enough to know and it makes it more of a challenge. Im glad you agree it looks like him so I've tried to look in the next census and nothing  :o. Driving me nuts  ;) 

I do think its him.

Becks