RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 10:32 GMT (UK)

Title: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 10:32 GMT (UK)
Difficult to know whether to post Staffordshire or Warwickshire.
Staffordshire Regiment and Birmingham Warwickshire burial.

Commonwealth War Graves Commission are appealing for relatives of Pvt A S Neal of the South Staffordshire Regiment. Service Number :- 7099. Died 2/11/1914. Western Genral Hospital of wounds.
Buried Birmingham (Warstone Lane) Cemetery.

The private memorial marking the grave of Pvt Neal no longer provides adequate commemoration. The commission are in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave.

If you can help CWGVC would love to hear from you.

https://www.cwgc.org/contact-us/

UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923  (Fold 3 - if anyone can show other info it would be great)

Pte A. S. Neal
Military Service Region South West, South West - Service Number 7099
Corps, Regiment or Unit South Staff.

Sandra

Title: Re: A S Neal
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 26 January 21 10:49 GMT (UK)
From FindMyPast - full name is Arthur Sydney Neal.

Title: Re: A S Neal
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 10:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks to Bumble B have put the names into the post title.  :)

1911 (free index)37 East St, East Stonehouse Birmingham

John Ruda   55
Arthur Sidney Neal   21 - Grace Fawcett Neal   25

   
Arthur Sidney Neal     - Christening 1 Nov 1891 Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Father's Name Henry William Neal - Mother's Name Mary Anne

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXX4-DRX

Sandra
Title: Re: A S Neal
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 10:59 GMT (UK)


FIND A GRAVE

PVt Sidney Neal  - 2 Nov 1914

burial - Warstone Lane Cemetery Birmingham, Metropolitan Borough of Birmingham, West Midlands.
PLOT   I. 1750

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143164746/arthur-sydney-neal

Sandra
Title: Re: A S Neal
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 11:06 GMT (UK)
World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923 -

Sidney Arthur Neal   
Grace Fawcett   Widow. 7 August 1885
Frances Fawcett   13 April 1911
Arthur Henry William Neal   - 2 August 1912
Gerald Neal - 11 July 1914

Sandra
Title: Re: A S Neal
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 11:08 GMT (UK)
Not sure Arthur does marry - Arthur Henry W Neal - 2 August 1912 - April 1980 - aged 67 years.
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun - Registration District Tavistock
Inferred County Devon
Volume 21 - Page 2050

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 11:14 GMT (UK)
Gerald Neal born 11.07.14 - Birmingham died 28.06.97 Mitcham  - according to ancestry tree. (last signed in over one year ago)

spouse - Rose Elizabeth Evans
born 13.07.13 - Bow, London, England. died 30.09.05  Sutton, Surrey.

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 11:19 GMT (UK)
Frances Fawcett Cornish - 13 April 1911 - Q4 1983 - Tavistock Devon  aged 72 years -
Volume 21 Page 2074

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 26 January 21 11:21 GMT (UK)
2 siblings baptised the same day - 1 November 1891 - St George, Birmingham:

Anne Maria, born 30 March 1889
Lilly, born 12 April 1891

Arthur Sidney's date of birth given as 31 March 1887

Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 26 January 21 11:27 GMT (UK)
Newspaper of time gives usual address for Arthur as 55 Heath Street, Winson Green, Birmingham and says he was an ex-tramway conductor. He died from his injuries in a Manchester hospital. Burial, with full military honours, in family grave at  Warstone. Following year, Birmingham Roll of Honour listed him as having been married, and a Mrs Neal, 55 Heath Street, as having been his nearest relative or former address. The entry against married also had (3). Looking at other entries, this may have been number of children, albeit column heading doesn't state this.
Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 26 January 21 11:41 GMT (UK)
A post on this forum (linked thread just an example of street mentioned) might also be worthwhile:

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/heath-street-winson-green.48578/
Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 26 January 21 12:25 GMT (UK)
Arthur's war medals look to be currently for sale via https://jcollinsmedals.co.uk/categories/first-world-war-medals/ . Perhaps sold to them via family member or selling on commission for a family member? Might be worth an email to them to ask and if yes, a request for details of this thread and/or the CWGC appeal to be passed to that member.

Quote
.   Serving in France from 12th August 1914, he was severely wounded during the First Battle of Ypres and evacuated home. He died of wounds at No 2 Western General Hospital, Manchester 3rd November 1914 aged 27 years
Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 12:40 GMT (UK)
Arthur's war medals look to be currently for sale via https://jcollinsmedals.co.uk/categories/first-world-war-medals/ . Perhaps sold to them via family member or selling on commission for a family member? Might be worth an email to them to ask and if yes, a request for details of this thread and/or the CWGC appeal to be passed to that member.

Quote
.   Serving in France from 12th August 1914, he was severely wounded during the First Battle of Ypres and evacuated home. He died of wounds at No 2 Western General Hospital, Manchester 3rd November 1914 aged 27 years

Wow, what a coincidence.  Always sad to see when medals come up for sale. Very interesting.

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Sydney Neal or Sidney Arthur Neal.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 26 January 21 12:50 GMT (UK)
pm sent to relatives (except for the ones in New Zealand)

Sandra