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Title: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: Mccrorj2512 on Thursday 28 January 21 11:22 GMT (UK)
Hello, I have attached a photo of my wife’s grandfather, Hugh Boyle born 1902 Rothesay, which purports to have been taken at Suddon Barracks in 1922. Does anyone recognise the uniform, i.e, regiment? Any knowledge of the barracks? Anything else that is obvious to those in the know would be gratefully received. Thanks Jim
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 28 January 21 11:28 GMT (UK)
He was a corporal in an Artillery regiment. Posing with an 18 pounder.
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 28 January 21 11:35 GMT (UK)
FindMyPast has a 1921 Royal Artillery attestation record for a Hugh Boyle of the right age (mid-1902) but it says that he was born in Greenock. Mother Susan?


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FROYALART%2F734861-735850%2F00126&parentid=GBM%2FROYALART%2F249243
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: MaxD on Thursday 28 January 21 11:38 GMT (UK)
If 1922 then he is a bombardier   :)

MaxD
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 28 January 21 11:40 GMT (UK)
Quite right Max !
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: Mccrorj2512 on Thursday 28 January 21 11:48 GMT (UK)
Shaun, definitely born Castle Street, Rothesay, July 5th 1902. To be fair they would have moved to Greenock shortly after his birth and are in the town by 1907. I have other family members in the artillery weren’t there different arms, light and heavy, for instance. My naive reading of the photo suggests Hugh would have been light or have I gotten the wrong end of the stick.
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: Mccrorj2512 on Thursday 28 January 21 11:50 GMT (UK)
Shaun, definitely the ancestor I was looking for. Just checked the address on his attestation and it’s the family home.
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: MaxD on Thursday 28 January 21 15:48 GMT (UK)
I have other family members in the artillery weren’t there different arms, light and heavy, for instance. My naive reading of the photo suggests Hugh would have been light or have I gotten the wrong end of the stick.

In 1922 the Royal Artillery was still divided into Royal Horse Artillery, Royal Field Artillery and Royal Garrison Artillery (Royal Artillery responsible for ammunition supply also existed).  Units of the Royal Field Artillery were primarily equipped with 18 pounders or 4.5 inch Howitzers.  The designations Light, Medium, Heavy etc came later.  Here we see a Field Artilleryman.

MaxD
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: Mccrorj2512 on Saturday 30 January 21 18:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all of your replies. Has certainly opened up a lot of new opportunities regarding our ancestor. Jim
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: MaecW on Tuesday 02 February 21 11:04 GMT (UK)
While trying to assist with this query I was unable to find any record of a barracks at Wincanton or any barracks called "Suddon". I'm aware there was a TA unit based in the town but they seem to have had a drill hall.
The background to the picture shows bell tents but no buildings. Was this perhaps a temporary "camp"and not a barracks ? Where does the "Suddon, Wincanton" come from ?
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 02 February 21 11:31 GMT (UK)
Might it be Buddon Camp in Scotland?
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: Mccrorj2512 on Tuesday 02 February 21 12:56 GMT (UK)
MaecW, it comes from a handwritten note on the back of the photograph. It appears ShaunJ has come up with a more plausible alternative.
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: Mccrorj2512 on Tuesday 02 February 21 12:58 GMT (UK)
ShaunJ, that makes sense given the fact that Hugh was a plumber from the West Coast of Scotland. Wincanton in the 20’s feels like a bit of a journey!
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 02 February 21 15:38 GMT (UK)
Running in on ShauJ's coattails and finding many newspaper references in the 20s to "the artillery ranges" at Buddon and Buddon Artillery camp including reports that this would be the venue of annual camp for many a Territorial Force unit.

ShaunJ has it (as so often :))

MaxD
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: Mccrorj2512 on Tuesday 02 February 21 17:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone and apologies for my lack of knowledge tether TA! Assume it worked much like today, you signed up and then committed to  minimum number of hours/days per year? Struggling to see where Hugh would have regularly paraded for training other than Buddon. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: raonull4 on Tuesday 02 February 21 18:29 GMT (UK)
hi
 i believe there was a depot in gourock
for training and home defence,
hence the name battery park
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: MaecW on Wednesday 03 February 21 00:39 GMT (UK)
Mccrorj2512,
Thank you.  I agree with Shaun's identification of the place as likely to be Budden.
I wonder how "Wincanton" got into the description; there's nothing like it near Budden.
Perhaps the inscription on the photo was made years later and the writer confused two place !  :) 

Maec
Title: Re: Suddon Barracks - Wincanton
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 09 February 21 14:57 GMT (UK)
Loose end:

Struggling to see where Hugh would have regularly paraded for training other than Buddon. Any ideas?

TF units from a wide area of Scotland would have gone to Buddon for annual camp, his "home" base could have been anywhere, examples:
7 batteries of Glasgow RFA territorials arrive mid July 1922
Edinburgh district RFA units later in July

MaxD