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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 30 January 21 11:15 GMT (UK)
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Could any give me the details of this family arriving in US around 1867/68 from Wales
David Williams bc 1845
Ellen / Ellenor bc 1845
William E Williams b 1867/8
Thanks if you can help
Cas
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1870 Syracuse Ward 8, Onondaga, New York.
David Williams 24 Born England. Heater (Iron)
Ellen Williams 23
William Williams 3
David Williams born PA
Sandra
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possible 1880 Lower Eighth Street New Albany, Floyd, Indiana.
David Williams 35 Self. South Wales.
Ellen Williams 35 Wife
William Edward Williams 14 Son
John Williams 12 Son born PA.
Thomas Williams 10 Son born Illinois.
Sandra
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1900 census West 7th Street New Albany, Floyd, Indiana.
David Williams 58 Head, Born South Wales. Heater Rolling Mill.
Ellen Williams 56 Wife
Theoph Williams 24 Son Born Missouri. Barber.
Griffith Williams 22 Son Born Indiana. Wks Car Works.
Stella Williams 12 Daughter.
Sandra
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On the death certificate for Thomas Williams - parents listed David Williams (wales) Ellen Rees (Wales)
spouse Harriet - died 27 March 1937 - chronic Glomerulo Nephritus. Arterio Sclerosis. Hypertensive Cardiac Failure.
Burial 31 March 1937 - South Side Cemetery Allegheny. PA.
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra looks likely the same family. Is there any info on the passenger lists? They married in Wales in 1866, William was born in 1867 before they left for the states. Trying to determine a year they left.
Also how old is the David in the 1870 census? Was he born in the states?
Thanks for your help.
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FIND A GRAVE
David Williams - 1926 (wife Ellen)
Fairview Cemetery New Albany, Floyd County, Indiana.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/82165299/david-williams
shows 2 children - Griffiths Williams 1877 - 1909
and Harry Williams 1879 - 1890
Ellen Williams died 1931
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/82165325/ellen-williams
David Williams 16 September 1842 - 28 December 1926 (aged 84 years)
Death Place New Albany, Floyd, Indiana
Father William William - Mother Jane L William - Spouse Ellen Williams
Sandra
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1900 census ED 71 New Albany Township New Albany city Ward 6
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM19-B54
1910 census New Albany Circuit, Floyd, Indiana.
Ellen had 8 children and 4 survive.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKGV-T77
1920 census with Theophilus Williams & Family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF7M-5FL
marriage licence of Theophilus and Josephine
The Courier-Journal Louisville, Kentucky 9 Jun 1909, Wed Page 16
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68893402/marriage-of-williams-jacobus/
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra, could you add anything to reply #5 about David? If not thank you again, appreciated.
Cas
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David was aged 1 year but never found him on the next census. Note under 1910 census on reply 7 - Ellen had 8 children and 4 survive.
The deaths could possible be Harry, Griffith, David and John H ?
FIND A GRAVE
Theo, (1875 - 1930) spouse Josephine (1883 - 1954) brother William (1866 -1954)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/82037071/william-williams#view-photo=53157681
WW1 Draft - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7D7C-F3N2
1930 census shows Theo, Josephine with mother Ellen, mother-in-law Emma and brother William
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHMX-XH5
Death of - William Edmund Williams - 10 Feb 1866 - 29 August 1954 (aged 88 years)
Death Place New Albany, Floyd, Indiana.
Father David Williams - Mother Ellen Williams
1940 census with William and Josephine (widowed wife of Theo)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V1RT-9DG
Sandra
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Thank you, I wonder if he was David John? The births seem very close.
Great info, thanks again Sandra your a gem!
Cas
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Haven't pinned them down on a passenger list yet.
FIND A GRAVE with obit info attached)
Stella Williams Reibel - 1878 - 1953
Evergreen Cemetery Louisville, Jefferson County, Kentucky.
husband - Clarence Joseph Reibel - 1879 - 1953
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/148347034/clarence-joseph-reibel
plus two children
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/195237855/wilbur-b-reibel
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32704676/helen-carolyn-hoferkamp
Sandra
added obit Clarence Reibel
The Courier-Journal Louisville, Kentucky 9 Apr 1953, Thu Page 27
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68896737/clarence-reibel-9-april-1953/
obit for Stella Reibel
The Courier-Journal Louisville, Kentucky
11 Jun 1953, Thu Page 13
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68896822/stella-reibel-11-june-1953/
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Wonder if I should start a new thread?
If possible, I wonder could you give me family info on the father of Nettie Bell Williams b 1902 in Idaho he is David John Williams, trying to figure a dob he married Sarah Elizabeth Slater, in Utah in 1886.
I have a possible DNA match on him but cannot place him in my tree. Wonder if he is connected to this Williams branch?
I say possible as the only person in the matches tree could be him.
Thanks if you can help further
Cas
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Will have a look for you.
Thomas Williams 25 April 1871 Illinois - 27 May 1937 Pittsburgh PA (aged 66 years)
Father David Williams - Mother Ellen Rees - Spouse Harriet Williams
Certificate Number 46668
Obit for Thomas - Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
29 May 1937, Sat Page 18
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68894194/obituary-for-williams-aged-66/
FIND A GRAVE
South Side Cemetery Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.
PLOT Section G-1
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114835795/thomas-williams
FIND A GRAVE
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114835811/harriet-williams
Harriet A Williams - Harriet A Dufflield - 29 June 1881 - 18 November 1960 (aged 79 years)
Death Place Mount Lebanon, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Father William Dufflield - Mother Sarah Mayberry
Spouse Thomas Williams
Certificate Number 100625-60
Sandra
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Wonder if I should start a new thread?
If possible, I wonder could you give me family info on the father of Nettie Bell Williams b 1902 in Idaho he is David John Williams, trying to figure a dob he married Sarah Elizabeth Slater, in Utah in 1886.
I have a possible DNA match on him but cannot place him in my tree. Wonder if he is connected to this Williams branch?
I say possible as the only person in the matches tree could be him.
Thanks if you can help further
Cas
Can see David John Williams listed here:-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGT3-XC5K
Sandra
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1910 Blackfoot, Bingham, Idaho.
D J Williams 52 Head. Born 1858 Wales. Imm 1869. Farmer.
Sarah E Williams 44 Wife
John W Williams 23 Son Born Idaho. Labourer.
Minnie C Williams 18 Daughter. Born Idaho.
David H Williams 17 Son. Born Idaho.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLHN-199
Sandra
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1900 Basalt, Pitkin, Colorado.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM5G-MFM
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
David John Williams - 1852 - 1917
Grove City Cemetery Blackfoot, Bingham County, Idaho.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14767699/david-john-williams
Sandra
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That is the correct family in their tree, but additional info in post. David John has birthdates that are diffrent in trees connected to him. Would like to verify approx dob as cannot find him in Wales with the info they give, there are a lot of discrepancies that cannot be verified.
Cas
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Names are reversed on the death record of the son David Henry Williams - 1 February 1968 - father listed as John David Williams (birth place not known) ??? mother Sarah E Slater.
Sandra
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David John Williams - 17 October 1847 - died 29 January 1917 Bingham Idaho - farmer -
Father John Williams - Mother Gwen Edwards - informant J W Williams ???
Sandra
Partial Copy
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Don't think I will ever sort this.
I have a DNA connection to the Wardle family through my x 4 great grandfather Rees Lewis his great grandau is Sarah Elizabeth Slater who married D J Williams.
Problem I have a known DNA connection to my Rees family line. (Ellen / Ellenor Rees who married David Williams) who also connects through DNA in shared matches to the Wardle family. But is connected verified through the Rees family. ???
So was hoping there was a son of Ellen / Ellenor Williams nee Rees that would fit. ??? I have 2 lines crossing somewhere.
What a conundrum!
Thank you Sandra for your time, effort & info for both the William families, much appreciated.
Cas
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Noticed on death certificate of Sarah Elizabeth Williams, her mother was Janet Edwards.
On the death cert for David Williams, his mother was Gwen Edwards. Wonder if there is a link there ?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGR8-JT4Q
Sandra
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9V3-C9WQ-R?cc=1876879&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQVSF-ZMH2
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Cannot find a marriage within timeframe for named John Williams to Gwen / Gwenllian Edwards. It still would not connect to the Rees line. Both families were in different areas of Wales.
Jennet/Janet Edwards was the dau of Elizabeth Lewis, dau of Rees Lewis with his first wife. My line is his 2nd wife. I have 4 DNA matches from Elizabeth's daughters.
Been scratching my head on this for a while. Appreciate any other thoughts or input.
Cas
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Obituary of William Slater - father of Sarah Elizabeth/Elizabeth Sarah nee Slater Williams
The Ogden Standard Ogden, Utah 18 Oct 1915, Mon Page 6
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68898162/william-slater-18-october-1915/
FIND A GRAVE
William Slater -
Huntsville Cemetery Huntsville, Weber County, Utah.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/42901524/william-slater
mother - Jenette Edwards Slater - 1843 - 1910
Huntsville Cemetery Huntsville, Weber County, Utah.
PLOT 1-3-2
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/43773006/jenette-slater
Sandra
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Coincidence maybe but if this was the Edwards Family in 1851 Merthyr Tydfil. A brother had "Rees" as a first name ?
HO107 Piece 2458 Folio 154 Page 23
Thomas Edwards 52 Elizabeth Edwards 42
Rees Edwards 15
Margaret Edwards 11 Jennet Edwards 8
Elizabeth Edwards 5 Thomas Edwards 2
Mary Edwards 18
Sandra
although it is spelt Reese by the time he passed away in 1910
FIND A GRAVE
1835 - 1910
Ogden City Cemetery Ogden, Weber County, Utah
PLOT 2A-6-3-5E
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124567641/reese-edwards
Sandra
Interesting read....
http://welshmormon.byu.edu/Resource_Info.aspx?id=2210
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Yes, you are correct, as mentioned above, Elizabeth was dau of Rees Lewis
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Thank you Sandra for the link to Welsh Mormon History read, it is very interesting.
As mentioned I have 4 DNA links from Elizabeth's daughters. Only one connects the Rees line.
Cas
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Pioneer Immigrants to Utah Territory - menbtiones - Jenette Edwards Slater
Jenette Edwards Edwards - Birth Date 22 Feb 1843 Aberaman, Glamorgan, Wales
Religion Lds
Occupation Homemaker - Spouse William Slater - Marriage Date 1861
Father Thomas Edwards - Mother Elizabeth Lewis
Departure Place Florence, Platte, NE - Departure Date 7 Jun 1861
Pioneer Company Job Pingree Co
Travel Company Father, Thomas (67); 1 bro Reece (26);4 Sis Margaret (21);2 bro Thomas (12);5 Sis Sarah (9)
Trail Morman Pioneer Trail
Arrival Place Great Salt Lake City - Arrival Date 24 Aug 1861
Place Settled Ogden, Weber, UT (1861) Huntsville, Weber, UT (1862)
Death Place Huntsville, Weber, Utah - 23 Mar 1910 - Burial Place Huntsville, Weber, UT
Burial Date 1910
Submitted by Larry Wardle
Comments Sailed from Liverpool on 27 Nov 1854, aboard the Clara Wheeler bound for New Orleans.
Sandra