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Title: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Tuesday 02 February 21 15:47 GMT (UK)
This is the only picture I could find of him and it is taken from an old book jacket.
He was born in 1886 at Wandsworth and died 1971 at Harrow.
He served in WW1 with the London Regiment and was badly wounded losing both feet.
Can anything be done to make him look a little more life like.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Handypandy on Tuesday 02 February 21 18:16 GMT (UK)
With AI help for the upscaling.....
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: japeflakes on Tuesday 02 February 21 19:01 GMT (UK)
Sorry. no AI
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Tuesday 02 February 21 19:09 GMT (UK)
Well done Handypandy. What a great result.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Trishanne on Tuesday 02 February 21 19:51 GMT (UK)
Great result from Handypandy, just shows how an autommatic enhamcer can produce great results. I do not use an enhancer so here os my attempt.
Pat
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Handypandy on Tuesday 02 February 21 20:39 GMT (UK)
Great result from Handypandy, just shows how an autommatic enhamcer can produce great results. I do not use an enhancer so here os my attempt.
Pat

Trust me, I take no credit for the AI upscaling, which is why I mention it.  :)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: McGroger on Wednesday 03 February 21 04:42 GMT (UK)
Late one from me. :)
Peter
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Wednesday 03 February 21 09:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you to everyone that has contributed.
Your help is very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 06:34 GMT (UK)
(https://rttemppiclogs.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/5/1/135119465/george-ernest-rowles-gif_orig.gif)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 04 February 21 06:44 GMT (UK)
Chloe - what amazing technology! But that moving green line makes me dizzy.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 06:52 GMT (UK)
tech is great now, though I didn't use AI I used a series of overlays from my massive face library.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 04 February 21 08:25 GMT (UK)
Did you use Remini, Chloe?
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 08:26 GMT (UK)
I said I don't use AI.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 04 February 21 08:29 GMT (UK)
Remini uses the same technique that you have described. It is actually AI. The system searches for likenesses from a large database of features and selects the nearest ones.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 08:31 GMT (UK)
No I do it by hand.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 04 February 21 08:40 GMT (UK)
Andy used AI and it's very similar to yours. Seems to take a lot of time to do it manually as a gif

I've just noticed that you're new here so Welcome :)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 04 February 21 08:43 GMT (UK)
There's nothing wrong with using AI. It's been around a long time in computing.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 08:51 GMT (UK)
I can't see the similarity but thanks for the welcome, mines the left 1.

(https://rttemppiclogs.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/5/1/135119465/gfdr_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 04 February 21 08:56 GMT (UK)
Yours superimposed at 55% on Andy's.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 09:22 GMT (UK)
Mine 50 50 transparency over McGroger's, I don't see your point.
mine & andy's are the only 2 coloured may be thats what your seeing either way you can clearly see the detail in mine's done by hand I don't know any software AI that can put that level in.


(https://rttemppiclogs.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/5/1/135119465/5050_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: McGroger on Thursday 04 February 21 09:57 GMT (UK)
Did Someone mention my name? ;)
Welcome from me, too, Chloe. (Or is it welcome back, Zoe? Apologies if you're not Zoe, Chloe. ;D)
Chloe, for the technically challenged - including me - if the OP likes your restore, how does he download it? (Otherwise we're missing the whole point of this board: to repair people's family history photos for them.)
Peter
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 10:02 GMT (UK)
I'll mail it to them  ;)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 04 February 21 10:34 GMT (UK)
Mine 50 50 transparency over McGroger's, I don't see your point.
mine & andy's are the only 2 coloured may be thats what your seeing either way you can clearly see the detail in mine's done by hand I don't know any software AI that can put that level in.



But I was using Andy's where he said he'd used AI  and they are clearly similar I didn't mention Peter at all  ???

You do seem very like Zoe  :)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 04 February 21 10:35 GMT (UK)
Welcome back Zoe, it's one thing to use photo enhancing software to create a likeness, it's quite another to claim that the work is a hand worked photo restoration  :-\ As a long standing restorer on here, I will give due credit to a great piece of honest restoration work.
In my opinion, to achieve that kind of result from such a tiny file is impossible without the aid of advanced technological photo enhancing.
Carol
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Thursday 04 February 21 11:04 GMT (UK)
I don't know who you are but if you'd like the next time I enhance I can record how I do it, if you want to learn.  :)
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 04 February 21 11:28 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the offer but I prefer my restorations to reflect the age of the photo and not a modern reproduction.
You are obviously good at what you do but I enjoy repairing old photos using the information that is within the image, in keeping with the era that it was taken.
Carol
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Friday 05 February 21 10:07 GMT (UK)
What a choice you guys have given me.
There is some wonderful talent out there and I thank you all for your work.
I am delighted with the results.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Ian Nelson on Monday 08 February 21 20:53 GMT (UK)
might as well jump in here ... I recently installed Windows 10 over my much abused Windows 7 and every update slowed it until with only paint.net running every Clone Stamp paused to SAVE, never happened in Win 7 ... so I kissed them both goodbye and installed a Linux Distro called Peppermint 10, absolutely brilliant and lightning fast.  I downloaded GIMP and even after 4 months of trying it I was still not finding out how to do even the simplest task .... then I discovered Pixelitor (Free).  So this is only my second offering .... a bit belated and sad to say only my artful intelligence to boot, cheers, Ian
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Tuesday 09 February 21 09:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ian,

I am at the stage now where I am sticking to what I have and what I can easily use.
There are so many new products I would not know where to start.
But thank you for your input.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Ian Nelson on Tuesday 09 February 21 10:04 GMT (UK)
I'd still be using paint.net but they don't have a Linux version and GIMP overwhelms me.  Pixelitor has a great feature which Restorers will appreciate, namely the Clone Stamp.
You select the Clone Stamp size, simply and speedily changed to suit, choose Hard or Soft and RIGHT-CLICK the area to be copied ... it stays fixed until you Right-click again ... and left-click to Copy wherever you wish.  It just speeds up restoring damaged areas tenfold.  The other tools are similar to other Photo Restore apps, but intuitive and simple, cheers, Ian
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Wednesday 10 February 21 09:43 GMT (UK)
Have any of you tried Pixlr? pixlr.com/editor (http://pixlr.com/editor).
it's free & online so no downloading any software.
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 10 February 21 11:02 GMT (UK)
I clicked on your link and Firefox came up with a warning of 1 million compromised log-ins. It may be nothing to worry about but I closed the page promptly anyhow!
Have you used Pixelitor, if so, have you any tips re: colorization ?
cheers, Ian
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: chlo on Wednesday 10 February 21 11:11 GMT (UK)
Thats odd the sites solid (see vid)
I've never used Pixelitor I'll look it up, I do all my editing in photoshop CS6
then I colorize pics on https://www.colorizephoto.com/converter (https://www.colorizephoto.com/converter) ( it's amazing )

pixlr tutorial on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xOCi_I5_Jc
Title: Re: Can anything be done to enhance this picture of George Ernest Rowles
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 10 February 21 11:25 GMT (UK)
had a quick look at Colorize ... excellent.  I'll try it out on a full photo after I've finished with my grandson's online school lesson and as usual he has chosen to create a hybrid character with different dino parents and now I'm supposed to be helping him resolve the features and appearances  and functions.  What little I know of dinosaurs I learned from him ( since he was 4, now he's 8 ) and there is not only nothing he doesn't know about them, he's even inventing his own hybrids and is convinced that eventually some archaeologists will discover proof of their existence in the fossil records. Oh! happy days. cheers, Ian