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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: TROOPER ROLLO on Tuesday 02 February 21 19:14 GMT (UK)
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Can anything be done with this picture. Sorry about the condition. It's all I have.
It is Charles Rowles 1792-1868 in his churchwarden's jacket. He lived in Coombe, Oxfordsshire.
It would be wonderful if he could be centred on a 6 inches x 4 inches format if possible.
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They didn't give me a jacket when I was a churchwarden! :'( :'( :'( ;D ;)
Wiggy.
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Maybe your beard wasn't up to scratch Wiggy :P ;D ;D ;D
Carol
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Ah!! That will be it for sure! ;) is the hat part of the deal or just incidental? :D
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My try. :)
Peter
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Thanks guys.
Much improved and much appreciated.
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This photo reminds me of this:
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/411913
My father was a church warden. I think it was before I was born. I discovered this just before his funeral in 1986, when the order of service was that his coffin was to be led into the church by the two current church wardens. It was all very impressive.
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It's a very military look for a churchwarden: striped trousers,
kepi shako, stripes on the sleeves.
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One from me....
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One from me
Pat
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Does anyone know what colour the tunic was?
And what is thew emblem on the hat?
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It really doesn't look like a churchwarden to me. Might it be his son of the same name born 1833, who was a trooper in 1st Life Guards for 23 years, and was awarded 5 Good Conduct stripes?
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Hi Shaun,
Thank you for your interest.
I have a photo of his son Charles (1833-1890) in his Life Guards uniform.
I don't think there was good conduct stripes that far back but I might be wrong about that.
He did not serve overseas and probably never fired a shot in anger.
He did get a long service and good conduct medal.
He was a baker by trade and sits proudly on my tree.
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Good conduct stripes were introduced in the British Army in 1836. Charles junior definitely had 5 of them.
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Thanks Shaun,
I would welcome any information you may have on Charles Jnr., such as good conduct stripes etc.
He is not a close relative bnut he is still on my tree.
STUART
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The only information I have on Charles junior is from a quick read through his army file https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F1762%2F180%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F1762%2F382818
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I checked with the church in Coombe yesterday and they have no information about him at all.
I thought this was surprising as lots of churches have wooden boards with the names of wardens.
Hey ho.
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Possibly the vestry/parish minutes for that time have been destroyed. I wonder if it's worth looking through the BMD records. It may record him as a witness .
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I have just sent a copy of the picture to the Victoria & Albert Museum.
Maybe they can identify the costume.
I don't suppose he was the only one photographed in such regalia.
It may be a while before they answer but I will endeavour to relay any information.
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I checked with the church in Coombe
I am wondering why you think he would have been a warden at the church at Combe/Coombe ? He lived for most of his life at Kidlington and his children were baptised there. By 1861 he was in Headington and he died at South Hinksey in 1868.
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Thanks Shaun and well spotted.
The information on the back of the photo is obviously incorrect.
I admit I should have spotted that my self. Apologies.
I will send an enquiry to Kidlington and check there.
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The shako the man in the photo is wearing is of the type adopted for the Chelsea Pensioners but the badge isn't right
https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/CTAuctioneers/49/598149/H20253-L106936039.jpg
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Just received a reply from Kidlington church and a bit more information. Shets attached.
I am unsure now whether the jacket worn by Charles is a churchwarden's jacket or a
village constables uniform. He was a churchwarden for 5 years hence the chevrons on the sleeve.
But I note that he had 2 more chevrons on the other sleeve making 7. He was a churcdhwarden
for 7 years.
Any thoughts anyone?