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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: Rossi2795 on Tuesday 09 February 21 20:12 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
Sorry this is my first time posting... I am trying to find Campbells in Aberdour / New Aberdour in 1900's.
My grandfathers biological father was a George Campbell who later married to Margaret Gordon Bell. My grandfathers mother is a Ross. I am trying to find my grandfathers sister who was adopted but we aren't sure who adopted her or where. Can someone help me please?
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Hi,welcome to rootschat. My understanding is that adoptions were uncommon at that time. Any arrangements would have been informal.I doubt if there will be a paper trail. Have you found her in the 1901 & 1911 censuses?
flst
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Hello,
Have you looked on Scotlands People?
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records
It may be possible to help but you would need to give a name and approximate birth year; however you cannot name people who are still living.
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My grandfathers biological father was a George Campbell who later married to Margaret Gordon Bell. My grandfathers mother is a Ross.
There's no marriage anywhere in Scotland for the above, were they married elsewhere & where did this info. come from?
Is it possible George had a middle name?
Can you please tell us the approx. yr your g/father was born?
Do you have his birth cert. or are you working from what you've been told/heard?
If your g/father is now deceased it's okay to post his known details if you want to?
Where & when did he die?
Annie
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There was no formal adoption system in Scotland until abut 1930, so if she was adopted before then there won't be any official records.
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Yes I think his George' middle name was Scott
My grandfather has now passed and I don't think he even knew who his biological father was.
The sister would have been born between 1934 and 1938 in Aberdour potentially. Violet may have given birth in Edinburgh or somewhere in Aberdeenshire.
My grandfather was born in Aberdour in 1934. His full name is Ronald Alexander Kelly Ross. His mother was called Violet Adeline Ross. Violet was born in Strichen - 1916. She married a man called John Forsyth Smith in 1938. I have my grandfathers birth certificate but I don't have much to go on in terms of his sister or the biological father.
Yes I looked on Scotland's people. I ordered 2 certificates but it wasn't her. There were 7 people on the list but I can't afford to keep on buying certificates as you know it gets expensive.
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RootsChat's policy is of not publishing details of living people here, or details of people who may still be living. This is to protect all concerned from spam, identity abuse, internet abuse, etc, etc. This is a sensitive subject & your relative may not have known she was adopted. Finding out via a public forum would be a terrible shock to her or her family.
flst
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Hi flst,
All these people I mentioned a now deceased unfortunately.
I don't know who the sister was and even if she was a Ross because of adoption.
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The sister would have been born between 1934 and 1938 in Aberdour potentially. Violet may have given birth in Edinburgh or somewhere in Aberdeenshire.
I don't have much to go on in terms of his sister or the biological father.
I ordered 2 certificates but it wasn't her. There were 7 people on the list but I can't afford to keep on buying certificates as you know it gets expensive.
You have given 3 possible places of birth within a 5 year range which is a needle in a haystack without a name.
It's possible she was legally adopted as 'legal adoption' in Scotland was introduced in 1930 as Forfarian mentioned.
There's no way I can see to find a birth record other than buying potential certs. which could run into £1000s.
My suggestions for now would be...
You have your grandfather's BC & full name Ronald Alexander Kelly Ross
Have you established where those names may have derived from?
By following back your family tree you may find the names are maternal 'family' names & hope his sister was also given 'family' names which may be obvious on the index?
However, if his sister was given a multitude of names as your g/father was, it will be difficult to know as your g/father shows on the index as Ronald Alexande...Kelly doesn't show.
The reason Kelly doesn't show is because the index is on a spreadsheet which only shows a max. of 15 letters including spaces but you may be lucky & find an less common name like Ronald too as Ross is a very common surname.
Another suggestion...https://www.acr-scotland.org/
Have you tried the DNA route which may be beneficial?
Re your last message....regardless of the sister being adopted, her official BC with the surname Ross will still be available to purchase from SP.
Annie
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May I ask why you are looking for Campbells in New Aberdour? Do you think that your great aunt had the same father as your Grandfather?
flst
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Have you ruled out the Mary Jane Eliza Ross, b. 1936, Aberdour, Aberdeenshire; d. 2002 Glenrothes, Fife?
Mary Jane Eliza Ross m. (1) William Stobie Simpson, 1958, Aberdeen; (2) **** Scott, 2000 Glenrothes.
Mary Jane Eliza Ross or Scott or Simpson (mmn Ross) died 2002, Glenrothes (ref: 420/79).
Ruth
EDITED: second husband may be still living, so removed reference.