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Title: Else Surname
Post by: gingerstark on Saturday 13 February 21 17:32 GMT (UK)
I currently have;

Eric George Else 1911-1965

Born and died in Lincoln.
Married 1936 to Iris Mabel West

I know he was in the boar war I know he and Iris only had 1 child she disliked him so much she is buried with her parents in a different graveyard to him.

I'm hoping more expert searchers maybe able to find me more information on him so I can perhaps find a father, siblings, war records and more.

Thank you
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 13 February 21 17:40 GMT (UK)
You won't find War records as service records after 1920 are still with the MOD.  The Boar war was prior to 1911 when you say he was born

Possibly illegitimate
Births Sep 1911   
Else    Eric G    Mothers maiden surname Else   
Lincoln    7a   1006   


I know he was in the boar war I know he and Iris only had 1 child she disliked him so much she is buried with her parents in a different graveyard to him.

I'm hoping more expert searchers maybe able to find me more information on him so I can perhaps find a father, siblings, war records and more.

Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 13 February 21 17:51 GMT (UK)
Eric & Iris appear together on the 1939 register, sorry I am not able to give details.

He was baptised at St  Swithin, Lincoln 1st November 1911 born 18 August 1911 - Mother Annie Else
Address St Swithin Refuge, Free School Lane

Administration to his estate when he died was granted to his widow.
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: gingerstark on Saturday 13 February 21 19:00 GMT (UK)
Ah thank you that helps a little It's so easy to get confused with family recalling the truth and the actual truth, I know one of the Else relatives was in the Boar war because Iris told me herself, as to the origins of the family she said they were given the "Key to the city" I have yet to figure out what this means.
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: gingerstark on Saturday 13 February 21 19:06 GMT (UK)
Eric & Iris appear together on the 1939 register, sorry I am not able to give details.

He was baptised at St  Swithin, Lincoln 1st November 1911 born 18 August 1911 - Mother Annie Else
Address St Swithin Refuge, Free School Lane

Administration to his estate when he died was granted to his widow.

That's really interesting because my Grandfather said he remembered something about salmons then I stumbled upon this and didn't want to presume...but what you just said maybe links this up.

Name   
Annie Else
Spouse   
Jessie Saldmonds
Marriage   
Apr 1918 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, United Kingdom
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 February 21 10:18 GMT (UK)
Marriage;
15 Apr 1918, St John the Evangelist, Washingborough
Jesse SALDMONDS, Widower, Full Age, Labourer, abode St Leonards Newark, Father WILLIAM (deceased)
Annie ELSE, Spinster, Full Age, abode Washingborough, Father JOSEPH (deceased)
Witnesses D J ELSE/Kate Annie FROST
Source FreeREG

Trish :)
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: gingerstark on Sunday 14 February 21 10:46 GMT (UK)
Thank's Trish it was that link that helped me to fill my tree back to Mary Else born abt 1790. Once we could find that link it was another forum that had a full account of the fact it was EG Else that witnessed his 'step-father's' death that nugget was enough to fill in the broken link and it's amazing to see the fact that My grandad kept saying he used to go to mrs salmons home - he had no idea that she was a step family!

Amazing what these things can uncover.
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: DCB on Sunday 14 February 21 10:49 GMT (UK)
You may have seen these but there are some trees on Ancestry but have different families for Annie

One gives her parents as Joseph Else and Eliza Williams, born in Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, in 1884.

Annie Evelyn Else, born 10 Mar 1884 and baptised on 27 Apr 1884 in Edwinstowe.

1891 Census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4ZHZ-9MM

1901 Census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSND-BPY

1911 Census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWS2-65F

David
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 February 21 10:50 GMT (UK)
I think Annie may have been born Nottinghamshire;

ELSE, ANNIE mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1884  J Quarter in SOUTHWELL NOTTS  Volume 07B  Page 457
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 February 21 10:51 GMT (UK)
Everyone has skeletons in their closet. Thats what make family history interesting ;D
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 February 21 10:54 GMT (UK)
Bapt matches 1939 register dob.

Gosh David I have been looking for ages to find her in 1911 with no luck!
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: gingerstark on Sunday 14 February 21 11:00 GMT (UK)
That's what I've got down that she was Nottinghamshire. And that we have a William Williams coming into the mix. The professions all add up too.
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: DCB on Sunday 14 February 21 14:20 GMT (UK)
The only war record that I can find is for Joe (Joseph) Else, Annie's brother. He married Mary Ellen Mills, a widow nee Shield, on 18th October 1919 in Attercliffe, Yorkshire.

Birth: 1891
Service number: 311027
Regiment: Royal Tank Corps
Attestation year: 1910
Enlistment date: 14 Jan 1910
Birth parish: Edwinstowe, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire
Tank corps number: 311027
Previous regiment: Lancers
Title: Re: Else Surname
Post by: gingerstark on Monday 15 February 21 19:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you dcb I hadn't explored her brothers and sisters yet so that aids me branch sideways thank you x