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Title: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Sunday 14 February 21 15:49 GMT (UK)
Let me try this again after finding the original of my gg grandparents sitting room. My grandfather had posted on the back "Granny Ingham's home, Heaton Lodge. spent many wonderful days there as a child."

I'm hoping this version is workable and look forward to any improvements that will bring it back to life. Fingers crossed it gets accepted !!!

Louise, California
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 14 February 21 17:54 GMT (UK)
A small one on my laptop!

That wallpaper is something else  :)

Gadget
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 14 February 21 19:35 GMT (UK)
A small one on my laptop!

That wallpaper is something else  :)

Gadget

It sure is!!      ;D
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 14 February 21 19:54 GMT (UK)
Good job I can paint as I had  to re-do that painting* in the middle as there's a reflection of a window right slap bang in the middle.  :-X

* mainly raw umber, with a touch of burnt
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: chlo on Sunday 14 February 21 20:14 GMT (UK)
I chose to enhance all reflections & denoise.


(https://rttemppiclogs.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/5/1/135119465/vd_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: chlo on Sunday 14 February 21 20:36 GMT (UK)
Did 1 for funs  :)

(https://rttemppiclogs.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/5/1/135119465/vd2_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: japeflakes on Sunday 14 February 21 20:42 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: John-76 on Sunday 14 February 21 21:38 GMT (UK)
Another entry
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: John-76 on Sunday 14 February 21 21:41 GMT (UK)
Again with better sizing... sorry
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Sunday 14 February 21 21:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you all! I'm really laughing about the one with the couple inserted on the settee. They are from an entirely different family! But, who would know but me, right?

The reflection in the painting is the same issue we have these days. So, I guess it's NOT an oil painting or it would not have glass. Good job Gadget in removing said reflection. I would really like to be able to get a better view of the subjects in the other wall hangings as well as the person in the photograph on the table...but, I may be asking for the moon on that!

Wouldn't it be interesting to know what colors were in that wallpaper! Granny died in 1903 and my grandfather was born 1888, so this is likely taken sometime in the 1890's. The design makes me think of William Morris.
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 14 February 21 22:03 GMT (UK)
I also had a giggle at jthe guests!

Is it possible to scan just the paintings, Louise. If so, at 300-600 dpi with  no compression. 
I've been looking/squinting at the man in the pic on the table. He looks quite modern.

Very William Morris  :D
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Sunday 14 February 21 22:17 GMT (UK)
Hmmm, Gadget. I'm not sure how I could scan just a portion of the original photo. Any tips? The scanner I have is just a flatbed scanner (you know, one of those multi-task printer, scanners). I do have another brand new scanner that I have not set up yet. I'm wondering if it would give me that option. It's been sitting in a box for (gulp) 2 years. Supposed to be really good.

Do you have any other tips on scanning just a portion of the original photo. I have an iphone 12 pro but have never tried to scan anything on it. Just got it.

LL
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 14 February 21 22:20 GMT (UK)
Great photo, love the Chaise lounge  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 14 February 21 22:34 GMT (UK)
Hmmm, Gadget. I'm not sure how I could scan just a portion of the original photo. Any tips? The scanner I have is just a flatbed scanner (you know, one of those multi-task printer, scanners). I do have another brand new scanner that I have not set up yet. I'm wondering if it would give me that option. It's been sitting in a box for (gulp) 2 years. Supposed to be really good.

Do you have any other tips on scanning just a portion of the original photo. I have an iphone 12 pro but have never tried to scan anything on it. Just got it.

LL

When you scan, does your scanner program have a facility to preview. Usually, you can crop portions of the image and choose the size and dpi in the program.
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 14 February 21 22:47 GMT (UK)
There are some apps that can increase the size of images (rather than just the faces)  without pixelating but I don't have one at the moment. Must get a trial version!  The portrait one that I have wouldn't touch it - too small.

This is about double of the one in your original. I've tried to bring it out but....................
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 14 February 21 23:08 GMT (UK)
The large painting.
Again, a larger scan of just the painting might help. However, if the original photograph didn't catch the detail, we can't really get what's not there. 

An oil painting with lots of varnish would give a reflection.

Added - there are quite a few horses and riders in this - a battle or some other type of gathering??
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Monday 15 February 21 01:21 GMT (UK)
Yes, Gadget, the rendition by John-76 shows the white horses a bit more clearly.

I am going to have to do some research related to the "new" scanner I have to see if I can "preview" the scan and then crop and size so that there's a chance of identifying the subjects in the wall art and table photo. I've determined that the one I have been using does not have that capability.

Thought you all might be interested in seeing the home this came from. Just posting this for info. It is from a local history book. My grandfather had an original photo which I might post for restoration at some point as well.
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: japeflakes on Monday 15 February 21 08:52 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 15 February 21 09:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Louise...this is what mine looks like in the preview pane of my scanner.
Carol
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Monday 15 February 21 20:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Carol...I've now determined that the scanner i need to set up has this feature. I'm just having some issues setting the scanner up. So, I shall work on that today and see what I can do.

Be back with you all soon as!!

P.S. just got the call today to get our jabs! Woo hoo!!!
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Trishanne on Monday 15 February 21 21:43 GMT (UK)
I'm just wondering if the paining depicts Napoleon Bonaparte at one of his battles, He always seems to have ridden a white horse.  I have looked at several paintings but can't seem to identify the one in the photo.
Pat
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Tuesday 16 February 21 00:12 GMT (UK)
Well Gadget and Carol - I have spent all day trying to get this scanner of mine up and running with limited success. The issue is that after I got it, I changed from Windows to a Mac and the sofware that came with the Epson 600V scanner doesn't work. I have software that does work but it is so technical I'm having problems understanding how to do what.

However, I have rescanned the photo and it seems much better than the original one I posted, so I am attaching that to see if it can be worked with any better. I think it's as good as I'm gonna get at this point. See what you think.
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 16 February 21 00:25 GMT (UK)
The paintings have certainly come up well  :)

I've got an Epson  scanner attached to my Mac. I  remember swearing at it when I first got it but it works well now. I can't remember what I did though  :-\
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: chlo on Tuesday 16 February 21 03:48 GMT (UK)
here's your mac driver https://esmepatterson.com/epson-perfection-v600-driver/ (https://esmepatterson.com/epson-perfection-v600-driver/)
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Tuesday 16 February 21 05:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Chole. This link didn't work, but it did encourage me to look for a driver that would. It seems when I got the scanner a couple of years ago they did not have an Epson download for Mac. So, they provided a different compatible software called Silverfast, which is way too advanced for me. I have downloaded the Epson driver and will give it a try tomorrow.
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 16 February 21 05:47 GMT (UK)
I've tried to bring out as much detail as possible using Topaz's Gigapixel filter. A couple of normal size versions here, followed by a couple of large versions on separate posts. I had to compress the large versions a lot so I hope the detail comes through.
Peter
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 16 February 21 05:48 GMT (UK)
The large B&W...
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 16 February 21 05:50 GMT (UK)
... and a large sepia.

Notice there's even a tiny little portrait above the other small portrait.

Peter
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Wiggy on Tuesday 16 February 21 07:56 GMT (UK)
I reckon that could be Napoleon on his white horse as Pat says.  I think I can see his 'sideways' hat, with the white across the top!
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 16 February 21 08:47 GMT (UK)
Just to clarify, the tiny little portrait I referred isn't the thing that looks like a face above the man's portrait but the even smaller portrait on the shelf above. You might need a magnifying glass. ;D
Peter
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Wiggy on Tuesday 16 February 21 09:46 GMT (UK)
Ah yes - so there is!!    So many paintings and portraits!! 
Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 16 February 21 12:04 GMT (UK)
I changed from Windows to a Mac and the sofware that came with the Epson 600V scanner doesn't work. I have software that does work but it is so technical I'm having problems understanding how to do what.

My printer/scanner (accessed from my iMac via wifi) will print fine,  but the manufacturer hasn't yet updated a driver that is compatible with the current OS.

So I use the image capture app (open it from your Applications folder) which shows me the preview  and gives the facility to change settings - including to use a "custom size" which, amongst other good stuff, allows me to select 'just' a particular area of an image and then scan.

Put the photo on the scanner, then open the image capture app to see if it works for your set up?
Worth a try.

Boo

Title: Re: Heaton Lodge, Wortley, Yorkshire
Post by: en2gen on Wednesday 17 February 21 03:56 GMT (UK)
Peter - Thank you so very much for your restorations. i don't think I can ask for much more! What an improvement from my original posting. I appreciate it very much.

Boo....thank you for the tip. I am going to play around with that scanner when i get more time. I understand what you are suggesting!

Many thanks all for working with me through all the technical challenges and helping me get to the point that I can at least make a decent scan. This V600 is sooooo much better than the other scanner I was using! I actually think I know what is in that photo on the table!!!

Louise