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Title: Always better to view the original!
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 14 February 21 16:31 GMT (UK)
I've always advocated that it is better to view the original manuscript rather than a transcription.

1901 census - Matlock - RG13/3266 folio 101 page 37

Violet Ward -
adopted daughter 
age 6 (about) (exact age not known) 
Where born = not known, found on Railway in parcel.

Transcription - age 6, Birthplace = N.

Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: walkerpete on Sunday 14 February 21 18:54 GMT (UK)
Love it!!

Pete
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: IgorStrav on Sunday 14 February 21 19:01 GMT (UK)
Wow!!

Added later as I thought about it...

"In a HANDBAAAAG??????"
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: majm on Sunday 14 February 21 19:10 GMT (UK)
So many questions ....

Anyway,  do we know any answers ... how, when, where, why, who, what.

What railway;  when was Violet found who found her;   was she days or weeks or months old at that time;  who decided her given name and why; but most importantly ..

Did she grow up  to lead a happy life...

JM
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 14 February 21 21:06 GMT (UK)
Wow!!

Added later as I thought about it...

"In a HANDBAAAAG??????"

Exactly what OH said - and it was he who found the entry.   :)
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: phenolphthalein on Sunday 14 February 21 22:29 GMT (UK)
May I suggest the Ward was because she became a ward of the state or county or city.
And Violet because flower names were the fad or rage of the time.
pH
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 15 February 21 08:04 GMT (UK)
Not sure about Violet, but I think her surname became Ward because she was adopted by Fred and Lydia Ward.
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 15 February 21 08:33 GMT (UK)
Just found her baptism - 12 May 1895 at Matlock Bank:

Violet May Ward, adopted child of Frederick (Butcher) and Lydia Ward of Smedley Street.

Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Monday 15 February 21 08:52 GMT (UK)
If a local workhouse register or minutes still exists, Violet might appear in these first before she was adopted.
I remember reading in a Tynemouth Workhouse minutes volume (at my local library) about a baby who had been found abandoned at Brierdene (and taken to the workhouse,) which is a nature area across from the sea front at Whitley Bay.  There was quite a bit recorded about the episode.
So if anyone reads your post one day and wants to find out more about Violet it might be worth checking out if the local workhouse records exist.

I hope Violet did grow up to have a happy life.
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: phenolphthalein on Monday 15 February 21 09:18 GMT (UK)
can I add I think the mum cared.
Although she was abandoned Violet was left wrapped
undercover and somewhere warm where she would be found.
Did her mum even time it for near to when trains would be coming and going.
This was a mum who did not want her baby to die.

pH
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 15 February 21 09:27 GMT (UK)
As far as I know she did marry, and the 1939 Register shows her living in Matlock, next door to Frederick Ward.

Added:  Birth date on the Register is 11 August 1894.
Title: Re: Always better to view the original!
Post by: Davedrave on Monday 15 February 21 09:38 GMT (UK)
I wonder if it is just coincidence that Violet would have likely been born not long after Wilde’s play was first performed and was very much in the public eye. Whatever, its nice that her story seems to have a happy ending.