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Title: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:26 GMT (UK)
Im having problems tracing a Birth Certificate
Heres what I know?
NAME: Sarah Ann Chapman
BORN: 1861
PLACE: Mountsorrel, Leicestershire (registration District Barrow On Soar, Leicestershire)
MOTHER: Frances Chapman

It seems she was illegitimate, cant find any father.....the Family History sites bring up a name but on ordering the Certificate it appears incorrect as the mothers name is differant....They both appear in the 1861 Census as a family with the Grandmother....searching the GRO indexes brings up just one match in the far away place of Dover. I ordered the Birth Certificate again only to find the mothers name again wasnt a match as indicated and a father was shown...I have her marriage certificate and Date of Death.......not sure how to progress to find the missing certificate?

Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:37 GMT (UK)
Relate exactly what the two birth certificates DO say.

Relate Exactly what the 1861census entry is . Do this from the image, not as an cut &paste.

What record(s) state that Frances is the mother of Sarah Ann?

Pauline
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:41 GMT (UK)
The 1861 census gives Sarah Ann as 5 month old child and her mothers name as Frances
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:44 GMT (UK)
It might imply that, I'm asking exactly how the household appears.

Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: Little Nell on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:46 GMT (UK)
Since the census in 1861 took place on 7 April, I would suggest that the child was born in 1860.

In which case this is the certificate reference from the official GRO website:
Sarah Ann Chapman no mms shown, birth registered Barrow upon Soar RD Vol 7a  page 125

Did you try that one?

Nell

Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:48 GMT (UK)
Grandmother, Mother, son then Daughter........is that what your asking?
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: Bee on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:52 GMT (UK)
Sarah Ann Chapman was born December 1/4 1860 Mount Sorrel, on the 1871 census she appears to be a neice, household members William, Sarah, Martha & John Chapman
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:53 GMT (UK)
Cheers Little Nell, just checked the census date and thats correct......No i havent tried that referance.....I would have hoped the GRO index would have brought that up +/- 2 years but it didnt......I shall check that ot now, Many thanks
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks Bee, will check that out as well
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:57 GMT (UK)
1861 census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7TC-8MC

Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 16:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you Bumble B......the link confirms Im on the right track, much appreciated
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 16:06 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all your help....Youve all very quickly helped solve my missing BIRTH CERTIFICATE for my Great Grandmother.....I shall check out the information received and order my missing certificate.....very much appreciated
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 17:31 GMT (UK)
REf Little Nell.....any reason why the GRO referances (VOL and PAGE numbers) wont bring up the match....A search with those referances brings up no results?   Did u get them off a BIRTH INDEX?
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 16 February 21 17:38 GMT (UK)
REf Little Nell.....any reason why the GRO referances (VOL and PAGE numbers) wont bring up the match....A search with those referances brings up no results?   Did u get them off a BIRTH INDEX?

What URL are you using to search?

The site which reveals MMN is www.gro.gov.uk

Pauline
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 17:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Pauline.....Ive ordered many certificates before, Im on the GRO website signed into my account and searching the GRO online indexes with the information I was given
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: barkbythorpe on Tuesday 16 February 21 19:06 GMT (UK)
OK finnally got there, had to leave some boxes blank and go on a wider genral search for the record to eventually show up.......got the certificate ordered.......really appreciate all your help, much appreciated, many thanks again, case closed