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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: buxton123 on Saturday 20 February 21 15:52 GMT (UK)
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Looking for his parents and dob
I know that his father was also called Edward and died before 1893.
I do not have his mother's name
I do not have a dob for Edward, but his gravestone says he was 69 when he died, in Bristol
The GRO has been unable to find a birth cert 1867-1871.
He lived in Bristol and Bradford upon Avon
He married Florence Kate Potter in 1893
There are three children: Reginald, Vera & Margery
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Presumably you have his marriage certificate, what information did it give for him and who were the witnesses. ADDED What was his fathers occupation or was it just saying deceased
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What place of birth did he give on census? Presume you have him on census after marriage.
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The GRO has been unable to find a birth cert 1867-1871.
There are several registered between those dates so I wonder what they couldn't find - did you ask them to specifically look for one with a father Edward?
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Born Bristol according to both census after marriage :)
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1891 he is in Bradford on Avon age 21 bn Bristol - boarding with Mary Blackmore
RG12/1605 Folio 123 Page 29
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23 when he marries in 1893. Father a commercial traveller :)
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1871 possible as a boarder age 2 with
Eli & Kate Barber
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1891 he is in Bradford on Avon age 21 bn Bristol - boarding with Mary Blackmore
RG12/1605 Folio 123 Page 29
Possibly a red herring but in 1881 Mary Blackmore is at the same address as 1891, head of house is Elizabeth Holbrook. There is also an Edward Barber staying there, nephew of Elizabeth -age 14 bn Bristol. I can't see that Edward on any other census. There is some strange writing in the age column against his name on that census.
Just seen your post Millie ;D
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Odd baptism here to look at
6 Jun 1869 Bristol St James
Edward James Batchelor
father Edward James Lindsay
mother Jane Lindsay
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Birth registration for that one
Sep 1868 Bristol
Edward James Batchelor Lindsay mothers maiden name Batchelor
He may well appear as Lindsay later on and not be your chap but the names popped out to look at.
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Death record has him as Edward W
Deaths Dec 1936
Batchelor Edward W 69 Bristol 6a 77
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1891 he is in Bradford on Avon age 21 bn Bristol - boarding with Mary Blackmore
RG12/1605 Folio 123 Page 29
Possibly a red herring but in 1881 Mary Blackmore is at the same address as 1891, head of house is Elizabeth Holbrook. There is also an Edward Barber staying there, nephew of Elizabeth -age 14 bn Bristol. I can't see that Edward on any other census. There is some strange writing in the age column against his name on that census.
Just seen your post Millie ;D
Elizabeth Holbrook was nee Portch in case it is later relevant . She married Joseph Holbrook in 1820.
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GRO has the W as Wilson
BATCHELOR, EDWARD WILSON 69
GRO Reference: 1936 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 77
So is this the right Edward death?
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Yes, this is the correct date of death information
GRO Reference: 1936 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 77
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So how did he acquire the second name of Wilson? This usually indicates a family surname.
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I have no record of a middle name 'Wilson'. The Register of Death only has the initial 'W'. He does not use a middle name on his Marriage Cert.
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Who registered the death
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I'd be half inclined to get the death certificate to make sure it is the right one. Cost £7 as a pdf from the GRO website.
It seems a little odd that a second name of Wilson appears but no suggestion of its use anywhere else.
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Yes, the initial does seem odd.
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I have not seen the name 'Wilson' in any Index.
The GRO no longer seems to offer the pdf service, so Certs cost £11
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I've just clicked on the pdf option and it takes me to the order page. You need to click on the little dot on the left and you get the option of certificate or pdf. You then click on the pdf option and you get taken to the order page.
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Thank you. I used to get pdfs - maybe it was more obvious then :)
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You say his gravestone says he is 69, is his wife buried with him as that would confirm you have the right death
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Yes, she is - in 1951
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Just looking at the 1901 census for Edward I now see he did not move far after he married. A few doors down is Mary Blackmore who he lived with prior to his marriage and between them there is a Frank Batchelor and family including his mother Mary. Have you eliminated this Batchelor family as being related to Edward
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Not yet. There are a lot of Batchelors moving up and down Regent's Place/Terrace in Bradford upon Avon over time. It's a bit like trying to unknot macrame!
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Have you previously investigated the Edward Barber / Batchelor we found in earlier census
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I have all the Census returns you mentioned and have already looked under some stones, but more to go
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It would have helped if you had mentioned those records in your first post and saved us spending time looking for information you already had.
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Sorry, Rosie, I'm new to this. I hadn't anticipated the response
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That is OK :) We do tend to start looking at the wider picture when we cannot locate a baptism or birth registration for someone.
My feeling is that his father was 'invented' on his marriage, especially as at no point he appears to have been living with his immediate family. I can see an Edward R Batchelor in Bristol appearing on adverts for the distribution of wine but he did not die until the early 1900's. Unfortunately not all births were registered this early despite the introduction of registration.
It is strange that in 1871 when he is with the Barber family as a Boarder age 2 his surname is given as Batchelor but in 1881 when he first appears on census in Bradford on Avon with a 'supposed' aunt his surname is listed as Barber before reverting to Batchelor on the next census.