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Title: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 23 February 21 02:05 GMT (UK)
Kia ora

Yes I know this is very early - no parish registers - but I know also that they were landowners and sometimes someone might know something I would like to know.  I am trying to find out who he married 'Edith' someone and when she died. 

Any help much appreciated.

Nga mihi
Bronwen Summers in hot hot Aotearoa

John Longhurst 1496c the elder married Edith ? St James, Abinger, Surrey in approximately 1515.  They had three children: John Longhurst 1515, St Margaret, Ockley, Mole Valley District, Surrey, Margaret Longhurst 1519c, St Margaret, Ockley, Surrey (married Richard Lyllie 26 September 1540 Ockley, Surrey) (Edwin) Thomas Longhurst 1525c-7 May 1585, St John the Evangelist, Wotton, Surrey, (married Margaret Walter 1550 St James, Abinger, Common, Surrey)
Agnes does she fit in here?
John Longhurst died 31 March 1567 age 70 Dorking, Surrey, Eng
Edith Longhurst (?) died 14 January 1575 St James, Shere, Surrey
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: goldie61 on Tuesday 23 February 21 03:42 GMT (UK)
I expect you've covered all the usual avenues such as wills,The National Archives, and Surrey archives Bronwen.

There's an entry on findagrave for him. No image unfortunately.

I didn't quite understand where 'Agnes' came from halfway down your post.
I thought you were looking for 'Edith'?

An entry on myheritage.com has an Agnes Longhurst, born 1557,  as the daughter of John born 1515 (is this the same John as you have above?), and his wife Amy. She died in 1575 aged 18 according to the entry. John and Amy had 7 children. I don't have a sub so I can't look at the details.
Quite a few hits on Google for John and wife Amy.
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 23 February 21 03:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks Goldie.  I think I have covered off everything that I can think off to try and find the marriage and Edith's death.

I didn't mean to leave Agnes in there, I am trying to work out how she fits in, what part of the Longhurst that I have lots of info on.  I have the Agnes you mention but that is too late.  I have John and Amy with 15 children...  so better re-look at that. 

It is this Agnes I am after:
Ralph Spooner husband of Agnes Longhurst
b.1522 St Margaret, Ockley, Surrey, Eng.
m.1545 St Margaret, Ockley, Surrey Eng.
d.1572 Feb 27 St Margaret, Ockley, Surrey, Eng.

Very very hot in Otautahi today.
Nga mihi
Bronwen

Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: Vance Mead on Tuesday 23 February 21 05:49 GMT (UK)
Here are some Longhursts still earlier in Ockley. These are cases in the Court of Common Pleas. Images of the original documents and some other indexes are unavailable right now. They are on servers at the University of Houston, Texas, which were shut down last week. I hope they will be online again soon.

In 1415:
Surrey. John Wyntereshull versus John Gostrode, of Dorkyng, husbandman; Simon Longehurst, of Ockele, husbandman. Debt.
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/618:_K-Z

In 1468:
Sussex. Roger Leukenore, knight, versus Thomas Longehurst, of Okeley, Surrey, laborer; Richard Longehurst, of Okeley, laborer, and others. Trespass.
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/826
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 23 February 21 07:30 GMT (UK)
Kia ora Vance

That is marvellous, I shall investigate them. 

I do have this Longhurst which is as far back as I have managed to go:

William Longhurst was born approximately 1476 in 1496 he married Sarah Peryer 1496 St John the Baptist, Capel, Surrey.  They had one child John Longhurst, St Margaret, Ockley, Moley Valley District, Surrey. 
William Longhurst died 27 July 1541 St John the Baptist, Capel, Surrey, Eng.
Sarah Longhurst ? 

Nga mihi
Bronwen
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: Vance Mead on Tuesday 23 February 21 08:06 GMT (UK)
Even earlier there is a Longhurst in the Poll Tax of 1381, (Part 2, page 546) edited by Carolyn Fenwick:

In Okele/Ockley, Willelmus/William Longhurst and Johanna/Joan his wife, terr' ten', assessed at 3s 6d. I suppose terr' ten' must mean a tenant of land or husbandman. Three and six was one of the larger assessments. There was just one other couple assessed at that amount, and one at four shillings.
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 23 February 21 08:26 GMT (UK)
Great thanks Vance.  As I am writing it up as a series of stories (along with a large family tree that will take all the strands in) I will refer to this in the intro to the Longhursts even though I cannot link them, very nice to have. 

Nga mihi
Bronwen
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: Vance Mead on Tuesday 23 February 21 18:06 GMT (UK)
Here is another Longhurst family, in Padyngden/Paddington, Wotton Hundred, also in the 1381 Poll Tax, page 552:

Robert Longhurst, carpenter, and Agnes his wife, assessed at 2s.
John their son, assessed at 6d.

Paddington is in the parish of Abinger, adjacent to Ockley, where there were three manors: Abinger, Paddington Pembroke, and Paddington Bray.
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 23 February 21 21:18 GMT (UK)
Marvellous marvellous, how do you find these, just googling and they come up, I have done a lot of googling.

nga mihi
Bronwen - another very hot day
Aotearoa
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: Robert Keiller on Thursday 09 December 21 22:15 GMT (UK)
Sorry to pick up an old thread.

I've been tracing Longhurst ancestors in Ewhurst/Ockley and have a detailed construction of the tree for descendants of John Longhurst d 1574, but earlier than that I cannot go. I've seen references on this site to Longhurst births and marriages back to late 1400s. Can someone tell me the sources for these? (I have reviewed the Ockley/ Abinger/ Wotton/ Ewhurst parish registers)

Thanks
Robert
Title: Re: John Longhurst 1496
Post by: BronwenS on Thursday 09 December 21 22:32 GMT (UK)
Kia ora

Send me a private message and I will send you what I have.   I do have longhursts going back to 1450 or thereabouts.  But to be frank I do not have references for them but some interesting stuff on the LONGHURST, SPOONER (Peryer, Diggins, Ayhurst, Collins, Burchat, Redford) 1476-1671 to DENDY.

I am also interested in receiving the tree you have.  I have wills in my document which is not at this stage a tree and is far from finished.

Is this the John you are referring too:
John Longhurst 1515 married Amy Diggins in 1537 at St Margaret, Ockley, Mole Valley District, Surrey.  John and Amy had 15 children:  William Longhurst June 1537, Edward Longhurst 24 July 1539-1575, Thomas Longhurst, 16 February 1540-25 January 1623, Julyane Longhurst 27 January 1542-1575, Henry Longhurst 1545-5 December 1547, Hugh Longhurst 7 May 1546-1575, Agnes Longhurst 25 January 1547-1575, Thomas Longhurste, 26 March 1548, Christopher Longhurst 6 January 1549-1575, Mathew Longhurst 16 April 1552, 1555 Jul 8 Richard Longhurst 8 July 1555, Christina Longhurst 20 April 1556, Margaret Longhurst 1557, Alice Longhurst 1561, Walter Longhurst 28 September 1562-16 October 1632 (married Agnis Astone 5 August 1571).
The above were all registered at St Peter & St Paul in Ewhurst Surrey or at St Margaret in Ockley, Surrey.
John Longhurst died 3 March 1574 in Ewhurst but buried in Ockley, Surrey. 
Amy Longhurst (Diggins) died in 1574 in Ockley.