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Title: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Jessie 46 on Tuesday 23 February 21 19:35 GMT (UK)

Trying to find David I have him on 1841 and 1851 census in Edinburgh but can't find him on 1861

He was born c 1778 in Midlothian son of Thomas Macgill and Janet ?  .
He married Christian Anderson in 1808 she died in 1851 .
David died in September 1861 in Edinburgh .

Thanks

Jessie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 23 February 21 22:39 GMT (UK)
Have tried, Jessie. No joy though  :-\

Hopefully someone else can find him.

What was the address given on his death reg? Who reported the death?

Monica
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 23 February 21 22:58 GMT (UK)


"David died in September 1861 in Edinburgh ."

From the death certificate...what is the cause of death?.....where did he die?....who is the informant?

Might be a clue to where he was earlier in the year.
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Jessie 46 on Wednesday 24 February 21 08:58 GMT (UK)


Thank you both for your replies  David was aged 83 died of old age at 157 Causewayside which

is in the Newington registration of Edinburgh.

His son William registered his death in September 1861

He was the widower of Christian Anderson she died in 1851

Jessie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 24 February 21 09:48 GMT (UK)


Have you located his children in the 1861 Census? 

His family name might have been transcribed incorrectly. He is a widower.......is he living with a married daughter? 

Census Scotland 1861   @  157 Causewayside   Midlothian  Edinburgh
SMITH Alison           64y                  b. St Cuthberts Edinburgh
SMITH James           68y                  b. N.K. Edinburgh
SHAW Christiana      20y    servant    b. Barrony
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Jessie 46 on Thursday 25 February 21 11:45 GMT (UK)


Yes I have information on his family they all lived in the Edinburgh area except one who predeceased David and he lived in East Lothian.
He had one unmarried daughter Agnes who was born c 1811.

Thanks again

Jessie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 25 February 21 16:58 GMT (UK)
David was aged 83 died of old age at 157 Causewayside

Was he at the same address in 1851?

Annie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 25 February 21 17:28 GMT (UK)
His family name might have been transcribed incorrectly. He is a widower.......is he living with a married daughter? 

Census Scotland 1861   @  157 Causewayside   Midlothian  Edinburgh
SMITH Alison           64y                  b. St Cuthberts Edinburgh
SMITH James           68y                  b. N.K. Edinburgh
SHAW Christiana      20y    servant    b. Barrony

1855 VRs at 157 are John Fairley & John Reid.

Could he have been visiting someone when he died?

SMITH MRS Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 157 CAUSEWAYSIDE, ST CUTHBERT'S
1865 - VR010000061-

There are 4 others listed 1865, there's no entry for 1860

Annie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Jessie 46 on Thursday 25 February 21 17:48 GMT (UK)


No he had only two daughters one Agnes never married and the other Janet(Jessie) was married to a George Douglas.

He was living at 154 Causewayside on 1851 Census .

Jessie

Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 25 February 21 18:01 GMT (UK)
Who were all in the household in 1851?

Is it likely he was a Proprietor (you don't give an occ. for him) & could this be him recorded with wrong name, maybe under Mitchell on 1861 census too  :-\

MITCHELL DAVID Proprietor
HOUSE 154 CAUSEWAYSIDE, ST CUTHBERT'S
1855 - VR010000004-

Annie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Jessie 46 on Thursday 25 February 21 18:14 GMT (UK)


In 1851 census are David  a day labourer
                             Christian his wife
                              Agnes his daughter
                              Frances his son
                              Janet Roberts 10 his granddaughter who is Agnes's illegitimate daughter

on his death cert. David is an agric.labourer,

Jessie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 25 February 21 18:53 GMT (UK)
Not finding anything on VRs, looks as though he may have been a Lodger in another household.

Did his DC give another address as 'Usual Residence' & was William 'present' at death?

I couldn't find son Francis on the VRs either although there's a few William MacGill to choose from.

Annie
Title: Re: David MacGill /McGill where was he in 1861 ?
Post by: Jessie 46 on Friday 26 February 21 11:21 GMT (UK)

It just gives  his address no other there was no medical attendant cause of death old age  and William his son registered his death.

Francis on1861 census is living in Middleton's Entry Edinburgh,

I have checked my records for 1861 census and David is not with any of his family .

Thank you

Jessie