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Title: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: EBrand on Tuesday 23 February 21 23:40 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I have found an illegitimate baptism for my 3rd great grandmother Sarah Alice Hope in Houghton le Spring, Durham. This was Oct 8th 1837. I'm still waiting on birth cert to arrive from GRO to clear up parents names as on the GRO index her birth is listed as being Sarah Alice Hope Jackson, with Jackson being the surname.

Aside from that, I was intrigued at the baptism record - Sarah Alice's mother was listed as Mary Ann Hope, and her abode listed at 'Halfway House'.

What is a 'Halfway House'? I did a quick google search and there were two possibilities, it being a place of rehab and reform, like the modern connotation, or it simply being an inn midway between two towns.

Which is it likely to be in Durham, 1837?

I would like to clear this up to add a little more context to my ancestor's life.

Thank you,
EB.

Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 23 February 21 23:53 GMT (UK)
Hi

From this

https://www.twsitelines.info/SMR/326

It suggests that it was a place between Houghton and Newbottle



Gadget
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: EBrand on Wednesday 24 February 21 00:02 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for that Gadget,
That’s awesome!

EB
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 24 February 21 00:18 GMT (UK)
I can't see it on a map, however there are advertisements for a farm for sale called Halfway House (and another Horsely Hill), "in the occupation of John Hunton and Henry Stratford" near Ryhope in 1830.
   Saturday,  Feb. 13, 1830, Newcastle Courant

And another for a farm called "Wall house, near the Halfway House in Ryhope Lane, near Bishopwearmouth" in 1840.
   Saturday,  Sept. 12, 1840, Newcastle Journal
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 00:26 GMT (UK)
Also this

Quote
The  first  houses    were  located close  to the  colliery in Low  Row (later  to  become  Blue  Row),  Jewitt’s Row, Back Row, Green Row and High Row. The houses which formed the four rows at High Moorsley were  not built  until  the 1860s  Rows  1-3,  and Westgarth’s  Row.  High  Row housed the officials. Opposite  the  school was  a  group  of  5  houses  known  as  the  “Half Way  Houses”, (i.e.  half  way between  Low  Moorsley  and  High Moorsley)  .   The  church  was  set  back  about  15 feet from the  road with a h ard stand  10-12 feet wide leading   from the road to the entrance of the church. On the lower side  some  20  feet  from  the end  of  the church  was  a  rough  dirt  track  which  ran  alongside  the  gable end of the uppermost Half Way House.

http://www.hettonlocalhistory.org.uk/villageatlas/The%20Hetton%20Village%20Atlas%20sections%2019%20to%2021.pdf

I've not found it on the maps either, Maddy.

Gadget

Add -I used to live  between Durham and Houghton when I was first married  :)
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 24 February 21 00:38 GMT (UK)
There is also an inquest at "The Halfway House, Houghton le Spring" in 1866.
Friday,  Nov. 2, 1866, Newcastle Courant
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 00:39 GMT (UK)
I think that this last one maybe  different Halfway houses as these are nearer Hetton than Houghton, I'll stick with the Houghton-Newbottle one.
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 00:44 GMT (UK)
There is also an inquest at "The Halfway House, Houghton le Spring" in 1866.
Friday,  Nov. 2, 1866, Newcastle Courant

There is mention of there being a few pubs by the name. Was the inquest in a public house. It was quite common  for inquests to be held in PHs.
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 24 February 21 00:52 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately it doesn't mention what the establishment was, though I agree, inquests were often held in Public Houses . The article does say that the jury "retired to the Workhouse", however that may have been to interview one of the inhabitants, related to the case.

Modified to add:
There are a few newspaper articles mentioning the "Halfway House [Inn], Ryhope-lane" - in the 1860s and 1870s, so a bit later I guess.  :-\
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 24 February 21 08:05 GMT (UK)
Hi EB,

Its interesting GRO has Sarah as Sarah Alice Hope Jackson but FreeBMD as Sarah Alice Hope.

Her Mother appears to have been buried 17 May 1838 St Michael, Houghton-le-Spring
MARY ANN Hope age 18

At this stage I cant see a Bpt for Mary Ann but there;
SIMON HUNTER Hope 16 Aug 1816 St Mary Gateshead (buried 9 Jan 1842 age 26)
JAMES ROBERT Hope 5 Aug 1827 St Michael Houghton-le-Spring
Parents WILLIAM/HANNAH
Fathers occp Cordwainer

James is on 1841 Census
Thomas Jackson   25 Shoemaker
William Hope   50 Shoemaker
Hannah Hope   55
James Hope   13
Sarah Abie Hope 3
Mary Jane Briggs 4

MARY JANE Briggs bapt 19 Feb 1837 to THOMAS/JANE, Father a Cordwainer
Thomas married Jane FOUTHROP  22 Mar 1830, William Hope** was a witness

All above on FreeREG

Aaah looks like from Familysearch other children were born and bapt Whickham;
HOPE, Parents WILLIAM/HANNAH
THOMAS HENRY 27 November 1814 (birth 16 Oct 1814)
SARAH HUNTER Hope 27 September 1818 (birth 29 Aug 1818)
MARY ANN 11 Dec 1820 (birth 24 Nov 1820)**********

So there is your Mary Ann!

Just looked at 1814 Bapt again, Father William HOPE/Mother Hannah HUNTER

Cant find a Marriage for William/Hannah pre 1814 though.

Its strange though that Sarah Watsons Aust Death Reg has her Mother as Sarah.
It depends who the informant was on the D/C I suppose as to their knowledge.

SARAH HUNTER Hope was buried 29 Jun 1821 Whickham age 3 (FreeREG)

Trish :)
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 08:43 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately it doesn't mention what the establishment was, though I agree, inquests were often held in Public Houses . The article does say that the jury "retired to the Workhouse", however that may have been to interview one of the inhabitants, related to the case.


If they 'retired to the Workhouse' , it might be somewhere in this location, just to the north of Houghton on the Newbottle  side:

add - wkhouse and PH marked on this map:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101099621#zoom=5&lat=1586&lon=5977&layers=BT

Add 2- Ryhope is a way from Houghton, Maddy - about 6 mls  to the east, near the coast.
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 11:13 GMT (UK)
The baptism, that the OP refers to is on Durham Records Online:

St Michael and All Angels, Houghton-le Spring
8th Oct 1837  Sarah Alice Hope of Halfway House, born 15 Sept 1837,daughter of Mary Ann Hope (spinster) 

In 1841, the occupiers were a John Scott and family -

Moorsley, H-le-S - HO107/312/15/16/27/

so this would suggest it was the group of houses that I mentioned in Reply #4   I found them on the OS maps earlier but can't see it so far.
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 11:17 GMT (UK)
Here we are- one of the houses here:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101099780#zoom=4&lat=5430&lon=5590&layers=BT
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 11:21 GMT (UK)
 :D

Better map

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341560#zoom=7&lat=4635&lon=12330&layers=BT
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 24 February 21 14:15 GMT (UK)
I expect you have, but in case you've not, seen the entry in the parish  register for Mary Ann's baptism:
 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XCH3-2Z1?i=466&wc=9K5Q-6TP%3A13618101%2C33056201%2C33056202&cc=1309819

on right hand page, 11th Dec 1820.

Add - and Sarah Alice 8 Oct 1837, Houghton

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-673S-FZG?i=324&wc=9K59-YW5%3A13618101%2C26770701%2C27071601&cc=1309819

on right hand side
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 25 February 21 03:18 GMT (UK)
:D

Better map

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341560#zoom=7&lat=4635&lon=12330&layers=BT

Oh well done Gadget, I looked and looked yesterday but must have just missed it!
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: EBrand on Friday 05 March 21 03:14 GMT (UK)
Oh my goodness I feel so bad,
I didn't even get a notification for these replies!

Thank you all for your time and effort in decoding and deciphering the Halfway House issue. It was a matter of curiosity as the modern connotation immediately sprang to mind upon seeing it!

I have managed to look at all the baptisms for William and Hannah's children except for their first in 1814, Thomas Henry Hope, I didn't manage to find that one. Sarah's mother Mary Ann died really young, aged 18 so I'm not surprised that on the death certificate the son (the informant) didn't know the mother's name. He also didn't know the father's first name, only the surname and occupation.

In August 1827 William and Hannah had another son John Robert, and they were living in Newbottle at that time so they could have been at that 'halfway house' place when those skeletons were found that you mentioned earlier, Gadget.

That map that you posted is brilliant. I zoomed out a bit and found Four Lane Ends, where William and Hannah Hope, along with Thomas Jackson, Sarah Alice Hope, Mary Jane Briggs and James Hope were living in the 1841 Census.

Another thing I couldn't work out was the relationship between Mary Jane Briggs' parents Thomas Briggs and Jane Fouthrop, to the Hope family, as William Hope was a witness to their marriage (as Trish found) and Mary Jane Briggs is with the Hope family in the 1841 Census. Also Trish, I will have a look at FreeREG!

Thank you all for your help, and I'm really sorry I didn't get back to you sooner! I wish the notification system was better :(

EB
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: EBrand on Friday 05 March 21 03:26 GMT (UK)
Trish,

I've been looking at the Diocese of Durham's Bishops Transcripts on Ancestry for Whickham, where I can't find Sarah Hunter Hope's burial record in 1821. Also, I was able to find in this same record most of the baptisms for the children in Whickham and Gateshead, except for Thomas Henry Hope.  :)

EB
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: barryd on Friday 05 March 21 04:05 GMT (UK)
A Halfway House in Modern American -

A halfway house is an institute for people with criminal backgrounds or drug abuse tendencies to learn the necessary skills to re-integrate into society and better support and care for themselves.
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 05 March 21 08:25 GMT (UK)
Hi EB.

I havent looked at Bishops Transcripts only on FreeREG as I posted so only quoting what volunteer transcribers have put on there.

I am in OZ so just help here and there but leave it up to others to find the actual images for their Trees.
Which I am glad to see you have done.

Trish :)

Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: EBrand on Friday 05 March 21 08:41 GMT (UK)
Hi EB.

I havent looked at Bishops Transcripts only on FreeREG as I posted so only quoting what volunteer transcribers have put on there.

I am in OZ so just help here and there but leave it up to others to find the actual images for their Trees.
Which I am glad to see you have done.

Trish :)

Hi Trish!

After lots of searching I eventually found the images I was looking for. All of the children died quite young which is really sad, apart from Thomas Henry as I still haven’t found a record of death for him. But thanks so much for your help, I am in Oz too!

EB
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 05 March 21 09:15 GMT (UK)
Here, on the Isle of Man, there were a number of establishments called "Halfway House".
They were coaching inns, situated obviously halfway between 2 towns.

There are 3 mentioned in "A Time of Manx Cheer" - a history of the main brewery here.
Others changed their names over time; but a few still have "Halfway House" painted on the gable ends.

There is also the "Rest And Be Thankful", halfway up the hill out of Ramsey, towards Laxey!
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Friday 05 March 21 09:22 GMT (UK)
Bishops Transcripts -

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=https://www.familysearch.org/service/cds/recapi/collections/1309819/waypoints
Title: Re: What is a 'Halfway House'?
Post by: Gadget on Friday 05 March 21 09:27 GMT (UK)
Also Durham Records Online. 

https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/

You need to register. To get full info, you have to pay - either credits or a sub - but you can get some info by a free search.