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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: mckha489 on Sunday 28 February 21 08:29 GMT (UK)
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Apologies for the length of this. I tried to abbreviate it :-\
One of my Great Grandmother’s sisters Charlotte Annie (Nancy) ANSCOMBE ‘Ran away with the butler (Mr Wilson) to America” “She and GGM were very close and wrote to each other every regularly until they died.”
“in WW2 she asked if her son could visit them (in Kent) when on leave, but he never did.”
Charlotte Annie ANSCOMBE was born 27 April 1868, Edenbridge, Kent. had an illegitimate son Alec Arthur ANSCOMBE
(GRO 1904 J Qtr, St Geo Hanover Sq. Vol 01A page 477) I do not have this certificate
1 June 1905 Oceanic arrives NY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFHJ-LZ8
on passenger list are
Charlotte A. WILSON 37 yrs 6 mths wife. last perm residence Cambridge to NY. going to husband. Alfred Harvey WILSON, Mansion House Hotel 478 4th Ave NY
Alec Arthur age 10 months.
Charlotte was actually 37y 1 month so ages are not 100% accurate
I do not think Charlotte and Arthur ever married. he was a lot older than her - born about 1850
Charlotte and Arthur had another child. Olive Grace in 1907 NY. I can account for her, marriage and death.
Arthur died 1917 (I think, certainly by 1923 when Charlotte applied for naturalization) and Charlotte Annie in 1942
I cannot find Charlotte Annie in 1940. She is not at the 1930 address.
In 1930 census for Los Angeles
at 946 3/4 West 85th Street
Charlotte A. WILSON head. Renting. b England
Alec A WILSON son 25 b England, Carpenter’s Helper at Elec. Power . Plant
Olive G. dau 23 b N.Y. Saleswoman, department store
and here is where I am very confused.
1940
at 946 W 85th St
Alec WILSON head 35 married b RHODE ISLAND
Esther WILSON 40 married b Mexico
William son 23 b California
WW2 draft card for an Alex Arthur WILSON gives dob of 30 May 1904, Providence Rhode Island, Person who will always know how to contact him is J Ybarra of 902 W85th St
at 902 W85th in 1920 is
Josephine Ybarra 48 wd. all b Mexico except last
Alfonso 13 son
Esther WILSON 23 dau Divorced
William grandson. 3 0/12 birth place of father MISSOURI
and in 1930
Mary J Ybarra
other family and
Esther B WILSON 32, Divorced
George W. WILSON 13 birth place of father MISSOURI
George William WILSON’s draft card names his mother Esther of 946 W85th St and gives birth of 18 Jan 1917
Alec Arthur WILSON dob 30 May 1904 died 17 Jan 1977
So. 1. Am I safe to ignore the amazing change in birth place and claim the one apparently born Rhode Island as one and the same as the one born in London?
2. How is Esther WILSON connected to the family? Who was she divorced from? Alec Arthur cannot be the father of George William, he would have been only 12
Is there a marriage for her to either WILSON?
3. Can anyone see Charlotte in 1940?
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I have no idea- but...
All on Ancestry...
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California Births:
William G Wilson
Birth Date:
18 Jan 1917
mmn
Escobosa
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California Marriages:Esther Escobosa
Marriage Date:
28 Oct 1915
Marriage Place:
Los Angeles, California, USA
Spouse:
Geo H Wilson
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Maureen
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Oh, that fits. There is an Escobosa with the Ybarra on one census.
So it must just be a coincidence that Esther was a Wilson before living with Alec Wilson.
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Did you mention that the WILSON family are in California in 1910? (Alfred is the husband-not Arthur).
and
Probably Charlotte?
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/60551484/charlotte-annie-wilson
Maureen
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I cannot find Charlotte Annie in 1940. She is not at the 1930 address.
In 1930 census for Los Angeles
at 946 3/4 West 85th Street
Charlotte A. WILSON head. Renting. b England
Alec A WILSON son 25 b England, Carpenter’s Helper at Elec. Power . Plant
Olive G. dau 23 b N.Y. Saleswoman, department store
3. Can anyone see Charlotte in 1940?
According to Charlotte's death certificate in 1942, she was living at 2319 33rd St, Santa Monica, the same address as her daughter Olive who was the informant. The DC also states she had been living in Santa Monica for 9 yrs, so she must have moved there around 1933 from Los Angeles.
Death Cert: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPMH-NQQK
Here is Olive in the 1940 census living at 2319 33rd St, Santa Monica. I don't see Charlotte, perhaps someone forgot to mention her to the census taker at the time?
1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9WG-9WL
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Alec Arthur WILSON dob 30 May 1904 died 17 Jan 1977
So. 1. Am I safe to ignore the amazing change in birth place and claim the one apparently born Rhode Island as one and the same as the one born in London?
On Alec's marriage record in 1936, he states he was born in Providence, Rhode Island.
Marriage:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8JR-7QJ
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93H-S9SR-Z?i=2734&cc=1804002
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There is no birth for a for an Alec Wilson or an unnamed Wilson son/daughter for May 1904 in the Providence, RI birth records.
Vol. 14-2 Births 1901-1910 Part 2 Kourhi – Z
Births: https://archive.org/details/alphabeticalinde19prov/page/1246/mode/2up
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:) :) :)
Note to self:Start using FamilySearch again.
Well done RJ137 !
Maureen
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Well! I don’t know how many times I looked on Familysearch trying to find the marriage.
That proves it. He names his parents .
Wonder why he decided to change his place of birth.
Thank you both very much.
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Wonder why he decided to change his place of birth.
That IS very odd.
Also-I don't think I've ever seen a marriage by a Spiritualist Minister!
Maureen
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Of the Church of spiritual truth.
I’ve never heard of it.
I googled and first option, which I don’t think can be correct was the LDS.