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Title: Catherine Snell
Post by: Aussie Boy on Sunday 28 February 21 10:17 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the birth date of Catherine Snell of Wicklow.I believe her parents were John Snell and Catherine Smyth. I believe Catherine arrived in Geelong Victoria Australia in 1855.
I think she married Jules Leon Baptiste Marion in Geelong,
Any help much appreciated.
Aussie boy.
Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 28 February 21 11:03 GMT (UK)
Baptism 13 Oct 1833.

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633691#page/14/mode/1up

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: Aussie Boy on Sunday 28 February 21 22:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Debra,
Many thanks indeed for the microfilm. Much appreciated.
Don.
Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: sparrett on Monday 01 March 21 06:22 GMT (UK)
Well, as you probably are aware, there were 10 registered births to this couple.

However, there is discrepancy in the age given on various records for Catherine (nee SNELL)

Baptised 1833, at what age we do not know.

Age at death 82 so born 1824

Age on the shipping record 20 years. Domestic Servant.
Cathe SNELL
Arrival Age 20
Birth Date abt 1835
Departure Place Liverpool
Arrival Date 27 Apr 1855
Arrival Place Geelong, Australia
Ship Epsom

Going to William Butler at Little Myer Street.

Still bearing children in 1880 according to the registration index. ;D

You will need to purchase a certificate or two I think.
I do not see a marriage record, but the certificate for the birth of a child will show-
Name
Date
Place
Father's name
Father's occupation
Father's age
Father's birthplace
Mother's name
Maiden name
Mother's age
Mother's birthplace
Marriage date
Previous children

Sue


Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: Aussie Boy on Tuesday 02 March 21 00:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sue for your response. Much appreciated.
One of the 10 children born to Catherine and Jules was John Napoleon Marion born in 1852 according to info. on Ancestry. There is a John Napoleon Simpson born to  Charles Jules M(Marion?) and Jane Stewart in 1856 in Belmont. He died in 1937 in Geelong. There is a death of a John Marion in 1937 ,aged 85 with father Jules Marion. Mother unknown.There is a marriage between a Charles Simpson born in France and a Jane Stuart( Stewart?) from Wicklow Ireland in 1855 on 31 May in Geelong.Was this the marriage between Catherine Snell and Jules Marion under assumed names?
I am quite bewildered!!!
Don.
Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 02 March 21 07:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sue for your response. Much appreciated.
One of the 10 children born to Catherine and Jules was John Napoleon Marion born in 1852 according to info. on Ancestry. There is a John Napoleon Simpson born to  Charles Jules M(Marion?) and Jane Stewart in 1856 in Belmont. He died in 1937 in Geelong. There is a death of a John Marion in 1937 ,aged 85 with father Jules Marion. Mother unknown.There is a marriage between a Charles Simpson born in France and a Jane Stuart( Stewart?) from Wicklow Ireland in 1855 on 31 May in Geelong.Was this the marriage between Catherine Snell and Jules Marion under assumed names?
I am quite bewildered!!!
Don.

The birth you mention
John Napoleon SIMPSON
Parents Charles Julis (sic) M. & Harriett Jane  STEWART
At Belmont
1856/5217

I do not see the death of John MARION in 1937. There is a burial record in the name John MARION for that year at Geelong

The author of the tree I have seen on Ancestry has either chosen not to show certificates or other original material as sources or does not hold them at all.

It makes it difficult to credit the work and raises doubts.

You need to contact the tree author or download certification yourself if you hope to move forward.

Sue
 
Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 02 March 21 08:00 GMT (UK)
Related thread here:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=845248
Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: Aussie Boy on Tuesday 02 March 21 09:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sue. The death of John Marion was in the Victorian Births, Deaths and Marriages site.
Thank you also Maddy for your input.
Don.
Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 02 March 21 10:26 GMT (UK)

It will be interesting to hear the results of your certificate purchases.
The birth of the first child, Mary Ann, should give the date of the marriage and birth places of both parties.

There is not much more to offer until then.

Sue

Title: Re: Catherine Snell
Post by: Aussie Boy on Tuesday 02 March 21 22:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help and suggestions Sue. It is much appreciated.
Don.