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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: Choccie on Sunday 28 February 21 15:48 GMT (UK)
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Could anyone help me please,
I'm looking for Michael Dunne who married Nora Gleeson....I believe Michael had a sister Bridget dunne ... I'm not sure of year of birth but would think around 1900. I'm trying to find out more about Bridget if anyone can help as cannot find anything on census.... if anyone can help me regarding her marriage or any details then I really appreciate it ☺
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As background for others reading your topic, is this the Dunne-Gleeson marriage?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1925/09146/5308151.pdf
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Thats fantastic ! Yes thats correct....
Have you anyway of finding his sister Bridget? Or anything about her please?
Shes the lady that I'm trying to tie into a family tree on my side if possible
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Thats fantastic ! Yes thats correct....
So they're both from the townland of Moyneard in the Civil Parish of Moyne.
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/eliogarty/moyne/moyne/moyneard/
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Yes , again correct ... I'm from Dublin and I tried looking for a census or to find a DOB or wedding for Brigid Dunne, Michaels sister....on irishgeneolgy I was very lost
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Hi ....I think Michael Dunne is actually on 1901 census for a place call cooleeny ? Father is also Michael...
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Do you have Bridget Dunne alive in later records?
This looks like the family of Michael snr in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Moyne/Moyneard/827001/
1901 with young Michael
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Moyne/Cooleeny/1713837/
Marriage of Michael Dunne, widower to Ann Ryan 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10356/5770294.pdf
Is this Michael’s birth in 1893 - mother Ann Fogarty
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02282/1856686.pdf
Sister, Margaret was born 1896 -mother Anne Fogarty
Sister Mary was born 1900 - mother Ann Ryan
Bridget b 1902 - mother Ann Ryan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01910/1740855.pdf
Death Bridget Dunne 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05678/4599956.pdf
Birth of Bridget Dunne 1906 - mother Anne Ryan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01729/1683492.pdf
Death - 1906 Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05546/4555803.pdf
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Marries Ann Ryan on 8/7/1900
Anne Ryan Dunne died on 7/10/1910 of a postpartum haemorrhage
then on 19/10/10 her two week old baby Anne (born 7/10/10) died of exhaustion and diarrhea
So sad
As at 2/4/1911 on the census Michael senior is a widower with a 1 year old baby Hannah who is presumably Norah born 14/10/1909.
If there are any further lookups needed for members of the family please let us know.
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Just to add the death of his first wife Anne Fogarty
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05779/4634217.pdf
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Hi everyone.... this is all baffling .... I was told that Michael Junior had a sister Bridget but did not expect the poor baby to pass away .... all very sad .... through DNA ....I've a connection to this family , small but definite .... I'm trying to find the history of the mother of brigid dunne born 1923....given for adoption ...I was on other threads as nuns gave information saying child from rathbride kildare but at the same time from kilbride, meath.
Yet my dna comes back linking me to this exact family .... cannot figure it out at all
......that's kildare and meath from the nuns and tipperary from dna ...
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Just to add ....nuns said that the babys mother in 1923 was brigid dunne also .....though could be untrue as
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I thought your name familiar but the Roscommon connection didn’t connect ;)
There were two babies called Bridget who died so perhaps you will have to follow up the surviving children to see where that leads you.
Do you have trees for the ‘small but definite’ DNA connections?
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To be honest with you I haven't a clue what I'm doing..... because I'm the granddaughter I think I'm too diluted to try chase my great grandmother....
I think there's a glitch on my heritage because it actually gave me a notification saying that my grandmothers dna is a match of a young person on this specific family.... like how? And why didn't it match with the father before the child ????
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Sorry meant on the myheritage website ..... then it gave me the exact same notification for another dunne in a different family .....I think at this stage I need to hire a professional 🤔
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Mmmmmm I wonder if the other sisters had the middle name Bridget and that was used ?? .... just a theory
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Sorry meant on the myheritage website ..... then it gave me the exact same notification for another dunne in a different family .....I think at this stage I need to hire a professional 🤔
I have my DNA on Ancestry. I have noticed that I have matches with some people in a family and not others.
If MyHeritage is the same as Ancestry I get notifications which have no connection but just have the same name. For example, I have a Thomas Alexander, ancestor, and Ancestry send me regular notifications of other Thomas Alexanders which I ‘may’ connect to.
Perhaps that is what is happening with you. Are they matches or just similar names?
If you have a shared match with someone with Dunne ancestry, then it would be best to look at the other person’s tree, names and places and begin there. If you are sent Dunnes but there is no shared match then I wouldn’t follow them just yet.
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Thats the thing ....the message reads
Your paternal grandmother matches with DNA of Joe bloggs in this family ..
How weird is that ???
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I don’t how that site works.
Have you had your DNA tested?
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Yes ...I did my dna through myheritage ..... I contacted the father of the child that supposedly my grandmother is connected to ...
Hes as baffled as me as to why it would skip him dna wise and go to his son ....all very weird
And then to get the exact same message regarding a different guy in a different dunne family .... sooooo confused .... I uploaded to gedmatch too but sure I'd need a degree to figure that maze out
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In that case, what relationship is shown between you and the son.
Which member of that Dunne family are they descended from?
Does that person know what happened to the members of the family?
You may have to go back a generation.
Similarly, can you do the same with the other connection?
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That's where I'm lost ....it doesn't say I'm connected but that my dead grandmother is connected to the man's son....
So like ...my grandmother never did her DNA , only me ....so why am I not connecting to the father ???
I told the man the truth of my history and he's going to talk to family members ....
The other chap never replied...a lot of trees are private etc...so hard to figure out
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The man i spoke to is the grandson of Michael dunne ...
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Maybe then it is only using names and proposing a connection rather than showing an established one.
I don’t know enough about DNA testing on that site.
You could try posting on here for advice and interpretation of your test and match
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/ancestral-family-tree-dna-testing/
But link this thread in with your query.
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To be honest...I'm lost with the whole jargon of dna ...ill figure it out ...need to get my head around it 😩
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Does My Heritage show you a likely relationship?
Ancestry shows that I am connected to people as likely 2nd cousin/3rd cousin.
For example, my first cousin’s son (my first cousin once removed) is a match as 2nd cousin.
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Only if its closely connected... the one that has me baffled is coming up as 3rd cousin ...
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Michael Dunne and Nora Gleeson of Moyneard are distant relatives of mine. Various family members have done DNA tests which could help you establish a link (depending on the DNA company used).