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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: Jaznjjj on Monday 01 March 21 12:17 GMT (UK)
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I would appreciate some guidance please to access the will of John PERRY who died on the 9th December, 1859 and who had probate granted on 21st February, 1861 to his son George PERRY of Haselbury-Plucknett. Very happy to share if anyone else is interested in this family. Regards, Jennifer
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This is the page that shows John's probate record. You can order wills from the probate service. You will need to register and then fill in the details in the boxes on the right. Don't worry too much about a Folio number, it may be 113 but I'm not sure.
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=perry&yearOfDeath=1861&page=6#calendar
Cost £1.50
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The folio number is indeed 113, and it must be entered or the application will fail.
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Bookbox, what happens if there is no folio number mentioned? It was the only one on the page that had a number.
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They don't all need folio numbers, but if one is there it should be included.
See under folio help (on the order page):
Folio Numbers
A Folio Number must be entered into the ‘Folio Number’ text box wherever available (excluding any letters). However, some results may not have an associated Folio Number. If there is no number present then this field can be left blank.
Please note that Folio Number positions and format do vary.
You may find the Folio Number is hand written next to the relevant entry.
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Thanks for that Bookbox. Something to remember when ordering a will, include folio number if one is there.
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Many thanks. I will get onto that. Jennifer
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Ordered. Approximately two weeks until available to download and the cost was surprisingly little. I am impressed! Jennifer
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I'm not sure how far you have gone back with the Perrys but I looked at a couple of Trees that dont have much.
FreeREG has a 29 Oct 1816 Marriage Martock for John PERRY of Hazelbury to Hannah SQUIRE.
Also on there Bapts to them Haselbury;
George 1819
Mary 1821
Hannah Sophia 1823
Jane 1826 buried 1830 age 4
On all Johns occp is a Carrier
Trish :)
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Many thanks, I'll have a look but I think it is another branch of the family. Still, I am gathering them in even if I don't see yet how they fit. The Perrys look like an extended family which remained in situ in Haselbury Plucknett for quite a long time. It is going to make DNA interesting if we can get meaningful results, which might be difficult given the number of generations back. I do have quite a few generations further back recorded - but I have to work on the documentation. John's wife, Mary, was a Tytherleigh and they have quite a history going back to the 1200s. Not quite as interesting to me as the more recent generations. Ta. Jennifer
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Yes I saw that John/Mary and children also on FreeREG. He was a Labourer
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Yes, I'll see what FreeReg have to say about him. I am slowly gathering his information and finding/confirming his connections. Thank you again.
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Sorry I am confused.
If you are descended from George 1819 then his Father was John occp Carrier ?
Marriage Cert to Elizabeth Slade has his Father as John a Yeoman.
A Hannah Squire Perry was a witness.
So his Mother I would say.
A Hannah Perry was buried 05 Aug 1848 HP age 60.
So this is them in 1841;
John Perry 58 Carrier
Hannah Perry 55
Elizabeth Perry 24
George Perry 22
Hanah Perry 15
Mary TYTHERLEIGH/John PERRY married 1801.
Children were;
Thos 1802
Mary 1803
Sarah 1808
Sarah 1811
Jane 1813
Heber 1816
Edward 1820
Last 2 have Father a Labourer
Edward married a Harriet Perry 1839 unfortunately Fathers aren't named on FreeREG
Trish :)
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Thanks Trish, I am still working them out. My line of descent goes:
John 1782,
Thomas 1802,
George 1830,
George Donald 1858 (on the Isle of Wight)
and so on down the generations.
John's sons Thomas (1802) and Heber (1816) left Somerset and settled on the Isle of Wight. I suspect that Mary died (I have found a possible burial 1828 at Haselbury Plucknett - and I make conjecture that John then married Hannah. I looked to see if the children of the possible two marriages of John were in sequence and it does work only if you allow Elizabeth to be a child of the first marriage (i.e. born 1817) and George ditto (1819) with Hanah (born 1826 not being a good fit if Mary died 1828 and Hanah being named after her mother. I am thinking on my feet so I suspect that Mary did die, but later than 1828. I will have to do more checking through bdm and see if I can find a baptism for Hannah.
John is listed variously as a carrier or a labourer. His father, Elias, was also a carrier.
Thank you for the help and introducing me to FreeReg!
Jennifer
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Hi Trish. I think there is a flaw in my logic. Let me think about it. Jennifer
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It appears to me that there were 2 Johns. One married to Mary Tytherleigh and the other too Hannah Squire.
Both Johns had different occps.
I will look over this again in a couple of days when I have more time.
Trish :)
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John Perry's will arrived. I tried to attach it in case anyone is interested but it wouldn't load. PM me if interested and I can email it or get it out there some other way. The will mentions John's wife Hannah, daughter Hannah who married Thomas Slabe?, son George Perry, brother Richard Perry, witness Robert Perry, what appears to be a creditor Thomas Bagley. There could be other names buried in the text which is very difficult to read. I agree, it looks like there were two John Perrys and it will take some work to sort them out. My best guess is cousins or a similar level of relationship. I am almost certainly descended from the union of John Perry and Mary Tytherleigh. I don't want to ignore the possibility that there was a second marriage of John to Hannah but the ages of the children don't synch. I have more work to do, yes? Jennifer