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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: RayMilBax on Saturday 13 March 21 10:24 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'm struggling to find the missing gaps for this family if anyone can assist please.
I have located on the 1881 Census Thomas Mulveal living at 23 Back Portland Street, Tranmere, Birkenhead aged 26 working as a Labourer and born in Ireland with his wife Mary Anne aged 24 also born in Ireland.
They married in 1877 - marriage lists Mulveal and Shields and more than likely took place at a Birkenhead Catholic Church than the Registry Office.
They definitely had 2 children - Thomas - birth listed as Mullvel in 1879 Birkenhead and Ann 1880 listed as Mulveal.
Although Ann is listed on the 1881 census Thomas isn't but I pick him up again via a Militia Attestation Record showing that in 1896 he was living at 47 Barnabas Street, Openshaw, Manchester and confirmed he was born in Rockferry, Birkenhead in 1879.
I am fine with the rest of Thomas (Junior's) life from 1896 onwards but I cannot find him as mentioned in 1881 or 1891 or his parents or sister in 1891 or any record of anything else (deaths of Thomas (Snr) and Mary Anne or Ann his sister or a marriage of Ann.
Any help would be appreciated as different combinations of Mul* or similar I'm not finding anything that springs out :-\
Thanks
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Hi,
I see a death in 1920 in Stockport for Mary A Mulveal is that your Mary A.
Maggsie
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Hi Maggsie
I did spot that but I ruled it out with it stating she was born in 1864 as opposed to 1856 - quite a bit out 8 years but yeah was definitely in my thinking
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Hi,
Mulveal isn't listed in any Ireland sites, usually Mullville, Mulville.
Do you have the marriage cert as it would give both their Fathers names.
There are sever Thomas Mulveal/vall/vale/vull all have Mary as a wife wit children Thomas and Mary, so hard to search for your family.
The marriage cert would really help.
Maggsie
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Hi,
I see a death in 1920 in Stockport for Mary A Mulveal is that your Mary A.
Maggsie
The age at death is often only what the informant thought.
As Thomas jr married in Stockport and is living there in 1911, it seems quite possible that the death is Mary Ann.
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Marriage
1910 Stockport - registrar/attended
Annie Mulveal and William Costello
Here they are in 1911 - confirms her birth as Birkenhead
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWSY-SM4
No relationship or birthplace for Margaret Mulvell, 11 yrs in the household
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There is a birth
1899 Chorlton
Margaret Ann Mulveal - no mother’s name given
Added
Baptism: 18 Oct 1899 St Francis of Assisi, Gorton
Margarita Anna Mulveal - filia Annae Mulveal
Born: 11th July 1899
Abode: 38 Lawrence St.
Godparent: Maria Anna Mulveal
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I would have to order the Marriage Cert to help further Maggsie
Great finds "heywood" :) :) - at least there is some progression with Ann the other sibling and being in the Gorton area matches with her brother Thomas being that way in 1896.
Beginning to think too that Mary Ann Mulveal did die in 1920 - be good if she can be found on 1911 or 1901 though for a bit more clarification especially if she was living more Stockport/Manchester than Birkenhead
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There is a death for Thomas Mulveal in 1902 - Chorlton district. His birth year is abt 1860 though.
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Hmmm - again seems to make sense with where the son was a few years prior and again maybe the age wasn't exact
Thinking out loud back to Mary Ann's death in 1920 she would have been aged 56 but that would have meant her getting married aged 13 which can't be right surely! :D
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She is 15yrs in 1871
3751/150/41
Martin Shiel 46 yrs
Catherine Shiel 50 yrs
Patrick Shiel 11 yrs
Margaret Shiel 17 yrs
Mary Ann Shiel 15 yrs
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Rootspoint info
Thomas Mulveal was a man born in 1855 in Ireland. During the 1881 UK Census he was 26 years old and lived in Cheshire. He appears as the son-in-law of his house in the 1881 UK Census.
LAST NAME: Mulveal
FIRST NAME: Thomas
MIDDLE NAME:
BIRTH YEAR: 1855
BIRTH PLACE: Ireland
COUNTY: Cheshire
AGE: 26
GENDER: Male
RESIDENCE: 23, Back Portland St
Tranmere
Tranmere, Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
Martin Shiels (54, Male)
Patrick Shiels (20, Male)
Thomas Mulveal (26, Male)
Mary A Mulveal (24, Female)
Ann Mulveal (5m, Female)
so Thomas is missing ?
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I am not posting this to confuse you - but to let you know there was another Thoam Mulveal in Merseyside at the same time you are researching - just so if he pops up you don't get mistaken - it also looks as there is another Mary Ann Mulveal ???
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Thomas Mulveal was a man born in 1886 in Liverpool Lancashire Everton. During the 1891 UK Census he was 5 years old and lived in Liverpool. He appears as the son of his house in the 1891 UK Census.
LAST NAME: Mulveal
FIRST NAME: Thomas
MIDDLE NAME:
BIRTH YEAR: 1886
BIRTH PLACE: Liverpool Lancashire Everton
COUNTY: Lancashire
AGE: 5
GENDER: Male
RESIDENCE: 17, Heyworth St
Liverpool
Everton, Liverpool
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
Henrietta Mulveal (37, Female)
William Mulveal (10, Male)
Mary A Mulveal (8, Female)
Thomas Mulveal (5, Male)
Ann Hitchmouth (75, Female)
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Thanks Garstonite - no probs, much appreciated :)