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Title: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: baileyscusa on Wednesday 24 March 21 22:37 GMT (UK)

Hi Everyone,

This is my first post on RootsChat which I have to say I wish I'd discovered earlier. I am a Brit, born and raised in the Manchester area, and now living in South Carolina, USA. A few years ago I started to research my family history as I never met either of my Grandfathers and was curious about my roots. My Mother’s side of the family is all in the Manchester/Wigan area and I have been able to successfully research them back to the 1840’s.

My Father’s side of the family is not so straightforward. The only real information I have to go on is an old letter written by my Uncle, who was 13 years older than my Dad. The letter was very helpful as a start point but obviously left me with many questions. Unfortunately both my Father and Uncle have now passed so it's impossible to get any more details.

My Dad’s family roots are in the Essex/London area and my Grandmother was Ethel Emily Bailey (m.s. Daniels) who was born in 1892 in the district of St. Saviours in London. Her birth certificate states that her Mother’s maiden surname was Lowe, however I can find no record of a marriage between Daniels and Lowe. According to my Uncle’s letter she had a brother, whom he describes as Uncle Alf. The only record I can find that fits for an Alfred Daniels is actually Horace Alfred R Daniels born in 1899. On his birth certificate from the district of St. Olave, Southwark, London the parents first names are a match and the fathers occupation seems to be a reasonable match too. The Mother’s Maiden surname listed is Blow.

The letter does also name Uncle Alf’s wife, Violet, and that he had 3 children, the first of which was named Leonard. Based on the name Horace Alfred R Daniels, I have been able to find records for his wife and children that all fit and I am waiting on some additional certificates from the GRO to double check the names etc.

So being quite new to this my question is this. Based on the experience within the group does it seem likely that the maiden surname listed on my Grandmother’s birth certificate is simply a misspelling (Lowe v Blow) and that I can confidently move forward to follow the surname Blow? Or are there other things you suggest I check beforehand?

Thanks in advance for any help!!

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 March 21 11:03 GMT (UK)

Hello & welcome.
Have you found the family in 1901 & 11?
You need to look at the births of all of the other children to verify mmn is Lowe or Blow.
Also what was your grandfathers name?
We really need a bit more info.
Marriage found so far:
16/6/1890
St. John's Walworth
Alfred Daniels/20/Bachelor/Engineer/fa. John/Boiler maker.
Louisa Blow/20/Spinster/fa. Daniel/Saddler.
Is this them?

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 25 March 21 11:38 GMT (UK)

Welcome to rootschat

Is this the family in 1901
RG13/367 Folio   83 Page   48
25 Tupman Place
Alfred Daniels - 30 - occ Gasfitter - bn Southwark, Surrey
Louie Daniels - 29 - bn Westminster, Middlesex
Ethel   Daniels - 8 - bn Walworth, Surrey
Alfred Daniels - 1 - bn Southwark, Surrey

In Southwark in 1891 Aldred with wife Louie and brother George
RG12 / 345 Folio 59 Page   17

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 25 March 21 11:42 GMT (UK)

Marriage June qtr 1890 
Blow    Louisa       
Daniels  Alfred       
St. Saviour    1d   313

Louisa Blow - age 20 - Father Daniel Blow occ Saddler
Alfred Daniels - 20 - occ Engineer - father John Daniels occ Boiler Maker
Marriage 16 Jun 1890
St John the Evangelist, Walworth

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 March 21 11:45 GMT (UK)

Looks like we found the same marriage, I added it to my previous post.
With a lack of first names it's difficult to know if it's them.
Added:
I notice that 1 of the witnesses looks like Ann Bailey so that's a plus.

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 25 March 21 11:48 GMT (UK)

I did not think I had seen it mentioned earlier but it is good that we agree Jim  :)

I will now wait for baileyscusa to return to this post to see if we do have the right couple.

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: Nanna52 on Thursday 25 March 21 11:51 GMT (UK)

Yes it is possible that there was a misspelling.  My great grandmother married in 1851 as surname Heale.  From then I have found her maiden name transcribed as Hale, Hales, Anst and Aust.  I was totally confused by Anst and Aust until I found that her sister married an Aust and joined them on the goldfields of Victoria, Australia.  Anst had been transcribed incorrectly from Aust.  I could see it clearly on the original.  I can only presume that some official thought that her maiden name was her sister’s surname. 

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 March 21 12:00 GMT (UK)

1911 states 3 children in total with 2 still living which would be Ethel & Alfred
although Ethel isn't with them.
Horace's birth states they were living at the Guinness Buildings, Pages Walk
which were Trust houses. Still there today & very expensive.

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 25 March 21 12:59 GMT (UK)

Blow/Lowe - could be a misspelling - or surname misheard by the person who filled out the b/c.

It also could be an intentional slight tweek of the surname to something they preferred. I have an example of this in my tree and was told the reason for the slight change by a family member.

Purchasing more certificates as suggested by Jim, might clarify.

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 March 21 13:24 GMT (UK)

There was only 1 other child Louisa Jane b. 1890 mmn. Blow.

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: baileyscusa on Thursday 25 March 21 15:26 GMT (UK)

Thanks Everyone for the welcome and the replies! The Census and Marriage records I had seemed to be the same as the ones you found – and they do also seem to fit. Here’s what I have from my research.

1911 Census - Address: 22 Huntsworth Terrace, London NW
Alfred Daniels – Head – 40 – Married – occ Masons Labourer – bn Bermondsey, London
Louisa M Daniels – Wife – 38 – Married – bn Westminster, London
Harould T Walker – Nephew – 23 – Single – occ Masons Labourer – bn Willesden, London
Alfred Daniels – Son – 10 – bn Marylebone, London

1911 Census – Address: 15 Bracknell Gardens, Hampstead, London
Edward C P Littleton – Head – 42 – Married – occ Private means   - bn London
Hester P Littleton – Wife – 40 – Married – occ Ballarat, Vic., Australia
Joyce Littleton – Daughter – 12 – bn Felixstowe, Suffolk
Norah Littleton – Daughter – 11 – bn London
Edward L W Littleton – Son – 10 – bn Barton, Staffs.
John Stewart Littleton – Son – 4 – bn Launceston, Tasmania
Thomas C Littleton – Son – 8 – bn St. Helens, Tasmania
Ethel Daniels – Servant – 18 – Single – occ Nursery Maid - bn London

1901 Census – Address: 25 Tupman Place, Southwark, London
Alfred Daniels – Head – 30 – Married – occ Gasfitter – bn Southwark, London
Louie Daniels – Wife – 29 – Married – bn Westminster, London
Ethel Daniels – Daughter – 8 – Single – bn Walworth, London
Alfred Daniels – Son – 1 – Single – bn Southwark, London

1899 Birth - Horace Alfred Robert Daniels – Address: 270 Guinness Buildings, Pages Walk, Bermondsey
Father - Alfred Daniels – occ Engineer's Labourer
Mother - L. Daniels (m.s. Blow)      

1892 Birth – Ethel Emily Daniels - Address: 11 Manor Place, Walworth      
Father - Alfred Daniels – occ Engine Fitter
Mother - Louisa Martha Daniels   (m.s. Lowe)            
(Baptised 7 Dec 1892 at St. Johns, Walworth – same day John & Millicent Daniels also had their daughter Emily Millicent baptised)
1891 Census – Address: 71 Marcia Road, Southwark, London
Alfred Daniels – Head – 21 – Married – occ Gasfitter – bn St Georges, London
Louie Daniels – Wife – 20 – Married – occ Bookfolder - bn Lambeth, London
George Daniels – Brother – 17 – Single – occ Coachman Groom – bn Southwark, London

1890 Marriage at St. Johns, Walworth – Address: Bedford Street
Alfred Daniels -    20 – occ Engineer
Louisa Blow - 20      
Father - John Daniels – occ Boilermaker
Father - Daniel Blow – occ Saddler

Thanks for the additional hint about another child - I'll definitely follow up on that.

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: jim1 on Friday 26 March 21 14:04 GMT (UK)

Louisa Jane died Dec. Q 1890.
You seem to be back on track so just come back if you need more help.

Title: Re: Mother's Maiden Name Misspelling?
Post by: baileyscusa on Friday 26 March 21 15:30 GMT (UK)

Yes again thanks for the help - much appreciated. I think I have everything I need but it's always helpful to get more experienced opinions on any inconsistencies - and I have to say I've found a few as I've been doing my research over the last couple of years.