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Title: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: louisemcm on Thursday 25 March 21 14:48 GMT (UK)
Please could someone date the photos and restore them.

I believe the little girl to to be my gg-grandmother Louisa Dickens born around 1875 but am not sure.
I don't know who the adult lady is and dating might help me.
I think these might be the Seddon girls whose parents died in 1880. Does the clothing look like it could be from that date?
I'd be grateful for any help.
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 March 21 17:16 GMT (UK)
1st. 1910-20.
2nd. Late 1870's - mid 1880's.
3rd. 1870's.
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: louisemcm on Thursday 25 March 21 18:59 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Jim
That gives me a time-frame to work out who the lady from 1910-1920 is.
It also confirms that, hopefully, I am correct in who I think the other photos might be.

Did you happen to know if the girls in black, with the older lady, could be wearing mourning outfits? I'm guessing it's the children of Ralph Dawson Seddon and his wife, who both died around Dec 1880.
Thank you
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: japeflakes on Thursday 25 March 21 18:59 GMT (UK)
one
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: japeflakes on Thursday 25 March 21 19:03 GMT (UK)
two
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: japeflakes on Thursday 25 March 21 19:11 GMT (UK)
three
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: louisemcm on Thursday 25 March 21 19:28 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Japeflakes. :)
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 25 March 21 20:22 GMT (UK)
I think photo 1 (standing woman), and photo 3 (girl) could be the same person.
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: louisemcm on Thursday 25 March 21 20:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks Neale
I don't think so. The little girl is from my maternal line and I've seen pictures of her grown up. I just wasn't sure it was her as a little girl. The other photos have come from a deceased paternal line relative but I'll have to try to work out who the lady could be.
Thanks for you help. :)
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 March 21 21:13 GMT (UK)
I think photo 1 (standing woman), and photo 3 (girl) could be the same person.

I was thinking the same  :)
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 March 21 21:52 GMT (UK)
One of the little girl.

Gadget
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 25 March 21 22:26 GMT (UK)
I think the second photo does look like they are wearing mourning clothes.
Carol
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 25 March 21 22:49 GMT (UK)
They may not be wearing black. It could be any darkish colour. blue,green,red etc.
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 25 March 21 23:05 GMT (UK)
Yes I am well aware of that Jim, but for those girls to be dressed so formally and one of them wearing gloves just give that impression. That's just the impression I get, it doesn't mean to say that I'm right.
Carol
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 26 March 21 02:13 GMT (UK)
One of the girl
Pat
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 26 March 21 02:16 GMT (UK)
One of the unknown lady
Pat
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 26 March 21 02:19 GMT (UK)
Photo of the Seddon family
Pat
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: IBAGUE on Friday 26 March 21 07:15 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Gadget on Friday 26 March 21 09:08 GMT (UK)
A couple of the second photo ~

B & W


Gadget
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Gadget on Friday 26 March 21 09:09 GMT (UK)
and hint of sepia

Gadget
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 26 March 21 09:39 GMT (UK)
Lovely, very age appropriate  8)
Carol
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Gadget on Friday 26 March 21 09:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks Carol. I did most of it last night but my eyes got tired. 

Here's the first one. The sun is shining on the screen so I hope I've not missed anything.

Gadget
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: louisemcm on Friday 26 March 21 14:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much everyone for the restoration of the photographs.
They are lovely.
I really appreciate everyone helping with the dating and the restoration.
You're all so kind. I am very grateful.
Best wishes
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 26 March 21 15:26 GMT (UK)
One from me too.
Carol
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 26 March 21 15:50 GMT (UK)
One more for your lovely collection.
Carol
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 26 March 21 15:57 GMT (UK)
A darker version for you.
Carol
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 27 March 21 02:21 GMT (UK)
The young girls look to be about 6 and 8 years old. If their parents died in 1880, does that tally with years of birth around 1872 and 1874? Were they the only two children this couple had?

The older lady could be a grandmother .... possibly in her 60s, so born around 1812, give or take. Can you identify her? Does she have her legs crossed?  :)

Like Carol, I think it has a “mourning” feel to it, especially considering the way the older woman is holding the young girl’s hand. They look suitably sad.

It’s a lovely photo.
Title: Re: Help with dating and restoration please - trying to identify Dickens relatives
Post by: louisemcm on Saturday 27 March 21 08:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Ruskie

Thanks so much.
The dates would work for the two youngest daughters in the Seddon family - they were born in 1873 and 1875.
There are two more older sisters, born 1867 and 1870 and an older brother born in 1866.
The three younger girls ended up going to Ripley Hospital school for orphans in Dec 1880 (the ones born in 1870 and 1873)- (the youngest one was sent a couple of years later when she was old enough to be accepted).
I don't know if the older lady is their paternal grand-mother or their maternal great-aunt, as she lived with the family, (according to censuses) until their mother, Eliza Maria Dodd, died.
Does crossing the legs have a significance?

Thanks for your help
Best wishes