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Title: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Saturday 27 March 21 15:48 GMT (UK)
Hi iam looking for any info on my ggggrandfather Michael Hogan born 1843 Ireland, and his wife Catherine Slattery born 1841 Ireland.All i know is they married in 1868 in Dublin,had a daughter Margaret Hogan in 1873 then moved to london where i can trace them.Just looking for anything before fathers, mothers etc.Many thanks
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 27 March 21 16:04 GMT (UK)
The image for their marriage is on the free site Irish Genealogy.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1868/11467/8214725.pdf

Michael's occupation was 'Cooper' -- his father was Stephen Hogan - also a Cooper.

Catherine's father was Timothy Slattery - a Plasterer.

The address for both bride and groom was 4, Albert Place - presumably Dublin, where they married at the RC Chapel in Rathmines.
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Saturday 27 March 21 18:16 GMT (UK)
Thats great info thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 27 March 21 18:37 GMT (UK)
You are most welcome -- I was hoping the father's names may help find the baptisms - but I have had no joy so far!

We need an eagle eye on the case.
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 27 March 21 18:45 GMT (UK)
........had a daughter Margaret Hogan in 1873

Margaret baptised at St Marys Pro-cathedral
No 75
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.mary%27s-pro-cath_mf_1872-1880_ba_0060


Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Saturday 27 March 21 19:53 GMT (UK)
Do you have Michael and Catherine in censuses in England?
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Saturday 27 March 21 20:13 GMT (UK)
 Hi yes in the 1901 census west ham area.sure I've found them in 1881 before can't seem to find them now maybe there names were spelt wrong will try again.thanks
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Sunday 28 March 21 11:44 BST (UK)
Hi checked again for Michael and Catherine in the census but could only find them in 1901.Also I put Stephen Hogan name into ancestry with a date of birth 1822ish + - 10 years and only a few came up.would of put money on it that there would of been hundreds.Or is it ancestry just not having much data?Many thanks
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 11:54 BST (UK)
You would be looking for a baptism for Stephen so you would need a parish, townland or at least county to begin.

I found the 1901 census. Is this it?
1584/34/6

Michael Hogan 58 yrs Cooper b Ireland
Catharine Hogan 60 yrs b Ireland
Catherine Hogan 18 yrs b West Ham
James Hogan 20 yrs b Poplar

I was hoping there would be a more specific p o b than Ireland.

I can’t see births for Catherine and James. Do you have them?




can’t find the births of the children born in England.
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Sunday 28 March 21 12:18 BST (UK)
Just checked for the births of the children can't find anything concrete.I thought I could find Stephen in the 1841 census but nothing came up.Is it usually harder to find Irish ancestors than say English?Thanks
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: dathai on Sunday 28 March 21 12:49 BST (UK)
The church record gives Michael Hogan's parents as Stephen Hogan and Bridget Cody de Clonmel ?
There is a death 1866 age 64 for a Stephen Hogan in Clonmel
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633750#page/40/mode/1up

Catherines parents are given as Timothy Slattery and Margaret Sexton
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 12:58 BST (UK)
From Ancestry
There are baptisms with those parents for:
Nicholas Hogan 19th September 1836, Nenagh

Margaret Hogan, 19th May 1838 Drom and Inch

Michael Hogan 19th April 1843 , Tipperary

Jacobus (James ) Hogan 13th September 1850 St Per and St Paul, Clonmel
(This one is transcribed as Fahey  but is a mistake)

You can click on the records or if you do not have access, https://registers.nli.ie/
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 13:04 BST (UK)
Here is Nicholas, 19th September 1836 - a lovely clear image
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634771#page/62/mode/1up
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: dathai on Sunday 28 March 21 13:08 BST (UK)
Michael jnr born Clonmel 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02995/2097676.pdf

Mary 1879 back in Dublin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02908/2065659.pdf

Bridget 1869 Clonmel
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03369/2235382.pdf
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 13:23 BST (UK)
Great finds dathai.  :)
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Sunday 28 March 21 13:34 BST (UK)
Chuffed to bits with this information.thank you all so much.So could Stephen Hogan been brought up around Tipperary,and is it close to Dublin?Thanks again
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 13:47 BST (UK)
Stephen Hogan may have been raised in Tipperary - we don’t know unless we can find some evidence. If you look at a map, you can see that Dublin and Tipperary are not near each other.

There is a plain map on the catholic records site I gave you https://registers.nli.ie/ - just scroll to the map and click on it. It shows the counties. You can then zoom into the parishes.
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Sunday 28 March 21 14:24 BST (UK)
Name:   Stephen Hogan
Gender:   Male
Event Type:   Marriage
Marriage Date:   Feb 1829
Marriage Place:   Ireland, Nenagh, Ireland
Diocese:   Killaloe
Spouse:   
Bridget Cody.just found this on ancestry,can make out there names but the rest is just a blur to me .
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 16:21 BST (UK)
There is a family in Liverpool - Stephen Hogan, a cooper, and Catherine with several children. The children are born in London and Ireland.
It is confusing.

1881 3602 /120/9 - in two parts
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-MR2P
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-MTH5

1891 - two parts
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:795H-4PZ
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:79PL-R6Z

Michael Sweetman is son in law to Stephen but Bridget would be too old to be daughter and it just says wife for Bridget - not daughter to Stephen  :-\

There is a baptism for Stephen Hogan, 2nd January 1834 to parents Stephen and Biddy Hogan in Nenagh. A Godparent is Cody.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634771#page/38/mode/1up

Marriage
September 1864 St George in the East
Stephen Hogan and Catherine Corbett


Added The Sweetmans are no connection - a different address too  ::)
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 16:33 BST (UK)
Name:   Stephen Hogan
Gender:   Male
Event Type:   Marriage
Marriage Date:   Feb 1829
Marriage Place:   Ireland, Nenagh, Ireland
Diocese:   Killaloe
Spouse:   
Bridget Cody.just found this on ancestry,can make out there names but the rest is just a blur to me .

Good find  :)
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: heywood on Sunday 28 March 21 16:37 BST (UK)
The witnesses to the marriage are Michl Meara, Nicholas Cody and Bridgt Meara.
Title: Re: Michael Hogan and Catherine Slattery
Post by: insidecentre on Sunday 28 March 21 17:25 BST (UK)
Thank you so much heywood,so hard to read some of these parish records :D