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Title: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: Suzy100 on Sunday 28 March 21 18:47 BST (UK)
I am trying to find the birth of Henry William Dainty.  He was born abt 1851, mother Sarah Flower born in possibly Frome or Bath or Coombe Martin.  She married a James Dainty on 8 Nov 1852 in Lambeth.  So possibly Henry William is not his son.  Sarah was born abt 1834 and her father is John Flower, according to the marriage register.  Henry William has also been documented as William Henry Dainty.  I think maybe he was not James Dainty's son as I cannot find a baptism or birth index.  I have looked under Flower too but nothing.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 28 March 21 18:50 BST (UK)
So where was Sarah Flower in 1851?
with infant, or still awaiting his arrival?

Is this her? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGP7-4FC

Was the 1852 spouse local to Somerset? Or living there 1851?

Dainty is also considerable older than Sarah, was he a widower at marriage?
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: osprey on Sunday 28 March 21 18:59 BST (UK)
possible birth reg?
William Henry Flower june qtr 1851 Holborn vol 2 pg 143 mmn Flower
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: osprey on Sunday 28 March 21 19:05 BST (UK)
1861 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-48S8

1871 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBDP-FJD
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: Suzy100 on Sunday 28 March 21 19:09 BST (UK)
So where was Sarah Flower in 1851?
with infant, or still awaiting his arrival?

Is this her? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGP7-4FC

Was the 1852 spouse local to Somerset? Or living there 1851?

Dainty is also considerable older than Sarah, was he a widower at marriage?


Yes I believe this is her in 1851.

Yes James Dainty actually came from Frome and then when he died she married a Samuel Button also from Frome.
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: Suzy100 on Sunday 28 March 21 19:10 BST (UK)
possible birth reg?
William Henry Flower june qtr 1851 Holborn vol 2 pg 143 mmn Flower

Brilliant thanks I had looked on Gro but nothing came up!!  So thank you
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: osprey on Sunday 28 March 21 19:13 BST (UK)
baptisms 11 Nov 1860 St Leonards Shoreditch to James, porter, & Sarah Dainty of 24 Ashford St
Alfred born 15 Oct 1860
Eliza born 9 Oct 1853


 :D
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: Suzy100 on Sunday 28 March 21 19:37 BST (UK)
Thanks guys.  It looks like Sarah Flowers father was a lot older so not sure if he could be the grandfather although it does say he was the father! 
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: Alan of Kaslo on Sunday 28 March 21 21:07 BST (UK)
Dainty/Flowers is a great set of names!

James passing:

Name:    Age at Death (in years): 
DAINTY, JAMES        43 
GRO Reference: 1873  M Quarter in HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 469
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 29 March 21 13:28 BST (UK)
Bapt of Elizabeth from 1851 Census;
ELIZABETH JANE Flower 26 Dec 1830, St Thomas a Becket, Widcombe
Parents JOHN/ELIZABETH
Father a Labourer
Abode Barton Place**

** same address as 1851 Census

Love the name of the neighbour in 1851 Freelove Flower, Widow ;D

There is a SARAH 13 Oct 1833 same Church to JOHN/ELIZABETH but he is a Porter, abode Wells Road.

Both on FreeREG

Trish :)
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 29 March 21 13:42 BST (UK)
1841 Census
Barton Place
John FLOWER 40 French Polisher
Elizabeth 40
Virtue 14
Harriett 12
Elizabeth 8
Sarah 6

FreeREG has a VIRTUE bapt 15 Feb 1824 Walcot and a HARRIET 13 Feb 1828 Bath.
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 29 March 21 13:53 BST (UK)
ELIZABETH Flower buried 28 Jul 1850 Widcombe, age 63, abode Barton Court

Possible Marriage St James, Bath, 13 Jun 1817 John FLOWER to Elizabeth LOSCOM
Title: Re: Dainty/Flower birth
Post by: Suzy100 on Wednesday 28 April 21 06:58 BST (UK)
Thank you to everyone for your help.  I am still struggling with confirming the trail but am a little nearer.   :)